Quotes from the False Prophet of the SDA

Well... according to the penal substitution theory of atonement, we did the crime and Jesus did the time. Doesn't change the fact that we were the ones who sinned. Where are our sins now? We still have them, we still do them. We still sin. However, we no longer carry the guilt of that sin. According to the theory, Jesus "washing away our sin" or "bearing the weight of our sin" or "being sin" implies that although he never sinned, he going to suffer on our behalf.

 

true.

we come to God in repentance accept the Gospel and are forgiven.

in Matthew 17 - before the cross even happened Moses and Elijah stand fully forgiven in the presence of the sinless Christ on the Mt of Transfiguration. That is because "God forgives" the sinner ... but He does so based on the work of Christ and counts those things that are not as though they are - applying the benefit of Christ's future work on the cross - to Moses and Elijah and to Enoch and to all those who called upon the name of the Lord in the OT.

He did suffer in our behalf - He became the "atoning sacrifice for OUR sins and NOT for our sins only but for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD" 1 John 2:2

What people miss is that God uses the "atonement model" for forgiveness and as Lev 16 points out - that includes the work of Christ BOTH as the sin offering "Lamb of God" and also as High Priest in the Most Holy Place of the Sanctuary in Heaven.

-- One Baptism asks where sins are "recorded". That is an important question on many levels.

 

There's a good question.

And also "why" if one is obsessed with this denomination do they work so hard to know what its actual doctrines are while at the same time claiming to have an idea as to how to condemn ???

 

So far, all of the 'quotes' from sister White quoted by 'thatbrian', when actually viewed in their original and properly cited context, have not proved that she is a false prophet, but has indeed demonstrated her to be in perfect alignment with the texts of scripture [KJB].

So the thread title is a mis-nomer to say the least, and moreso, without actual documentational evidence from a scriptural perspective, is satanic defamation and libel upon sister Ellen G. White [now sleeping in the grave, awaiting the call of the special resurrection], a godly Christian mother in Israel, a faithful wife, and loving daughter of the Most High God, JEHOVAH Elohiym.

As a Seventh-day Adventist, I cannot assume what 'thatbrian' assumes, or what 'thatbrian' has as an apriori. Scripturally, I require evidence, actual documentation, line upon line and a thus saith the LORD and it is written.

 

Does a Calvinist follow all the teachings of Calvin? Do all SDA churches follow all the teachings of White?

 

Sounds a lot like Romans 2:12 to me.

All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law.
Romans 2:12 NIV

 

Quote someone other than you please. Try reading the Bible.

 

Out of curiosity - what point do you think you are making?

Lev 23 says that Ellen White is right in that paragraph... you knew that right??

Have you switched to defending her or is this another example where you think you have something... and then it turns out that you don't??

 

quote something...

i have never heard the phrase 'salvation in the Baptist" or "salvation in the Methodist" or "salvation in the SDA" ... are you simply "making stuff up"??

 

The reason I come here is that there are a great many here who do not limit themselves to 'debate my video' or to "all rant and no read" discussion.

 

Out of curiosity did you ever "read" the Bible on the subject of just exactly what prophecy IS???

Were you the one proposing multiple Holy Spirits? Or was that someone else?

 

Not point from the actual Bible or an answer as to whether you even know what the Bible doctrine on prophets is...

still.