Is Original Sin Doctrine Found in Bible?

^^^ This is what I was speaking against, @rsr , when I complained of neoplatonic philosophy influencing interpretation. The idea is that sin is passed down biologically through the male, therefore if a child is born without male genetic material then the child avoids original sin.

 

But this is not in the Bible. That's my point. The OP was not about how we think sin is imputed (or even if it is). The whole idea of a "perfect human nature" vs a "sin nature" is foreign to Scripture. The Bible, instead, speaks of nature two ways - "flesh" and "spirit".

Do you think that Adam was "in Christ" (i.e., "spiritually alive") and then somehow found himself outside of Christ (alive spiritually and then died spiritually only to be made alive spiritually again via faith)? If so, can you at least try to back up that idea with Scripture?

 

Tomato, Tomahto

Seriously, though, systematic theology (to include Calvinism) incorporates - by necessity- philosophy. You should know this. My complaint, however, is that you do not take your understanding from Scripture (otherwise you would never have stood as you have on this thread).

So I don't care if it's philosophy vs Scripture or theology vs Scripture. The bottom line is it's your understanding vs Scripture.

No one is created with "sin in him". Read James.

Scripture please.

 

Then why the difficulty in providing even one verse that describes Adam as having a "perfect human nature" which was altered to be a "sin nature" and this passed down to everyone except Jesus (who had a "perfect nature" but did not sin with it as Adam did)?

You do know that everything Jesus spoke about regarding the nature of man ("flesh" and "spirit" and the tree being judged by its fruit) denounces your theory, don't you?

Anyway, I'm waiting. If this idea of two kinds of humanity is biblical then give us a verse stating such and we can examine it. Go ahead.

 

Put a verse by the statement:

:All are with a nature bent away from God - ___________ (verse)
All are at war against God - ___________ (verse)
All cannot be tamed nor obey God - _________ (verse)

Fill in the blank and we can discuss the passages.

The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.

 

Just gave up all together on the Scripture part....huh.

 

What does the Bible say?

Genesis 3:7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened

Genesis 3:22 Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil;

 

In other words, you can't provide Scripture but will instead rely on the words and theories of other men.