Featured Marriage: Authority Granted by God?

Absolutely. God knows the true nature of all things. People sometimes talk about God as if He ignorant of the human condition.

 

Taking that meaning would not only do violence to the text in Genesis, but it would also say that a man is one flesh with everyone with whom he has sex. That would mean all the women with whom he had sex are all one flesh, too, through the man. And what if he has sex with a child? Or another man? What of rape? Or is there something magical in the aspect of mutual consent to sin that transforms the sinful act into a blessed estate?

A man and woman can become one flesh only by marriage. Adam said this is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh before they came together. And, no, it wasn't about the rib. When Eve was presented, he said, This is NOW bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh.

Fornication and sodomy cannot a marriage make.

Something else is being said there. Not allowing violence to Genesis (and the estate of marriage) by presuming Paul is saying that fornication creates a marriage, what do you think Paul could be saying.

 

God through Paul is most definitely connecting sex with marriage friend.

God established the physical mating of man and woman in the marriage commitment as the only allowance for sex without sin. Any other arrangement in any way is sin. The physical mating of two flesh into one is the consummation of their heart's commitment to each other. This was God's intent from the beginning and always has been hence the reference God made through Paul.

Paul is merely reinforcing the gravity of the sins of sex outside of the one man, one woman commitment by reminding us what sex was intended for by God. That is what the reference to being joined to a whore means in this context.

 

But not fornication.

And . . . ?

Sex is not the act of becoming one flesh.

Paul is merely reinforcing the gravity of the sins of sex outside of the one man, one woman commitment by reminding us what sex was intended for by God. That is what the reference to being joined to a whore means in this context.

Paul is indeed magnifying the gravity of the sin, but he isn't calling fornication marriage.

So what does it mean to be "joined to a harlot?"

 

What does it mean to become one flesh. Fornication doesn't join two.

That's not what Paul is saying.

 

One more time friend, no one is claiming fornication as marriage. What God is telling you is that to have sex outside of marriage takes His intention (sex consummating marriage) and twists it into sin (fornication).
Does that help you understand the point being made?

 

Ah, my mistake friend. I assumed you understood it harshly but metaphorically. Fornication is sex of any type outside of the marriage commitment. It is sin and can never be interpreted as marriage in God's eyes. It is actually introducing a contradiction in Scripture to believe this way and there are no contradictions in His Word, only misunderstanding. An action cannot be considered honorable and at the same time sin in God's eyes.
Does this make sense?

My apologies to both you and mostly brother Aaron for misunderstanding your posts.

I, at one time did lean toward the same view you do. At the time it was serious debate regarding the meaning of the pastor/deacon husband of one wife qual. After deeper study it became clear that sin is the breaking of God's order as well as His orders. It is taking God's order or command and breaking it. Once broke it is no longer God's order and therefore sin.

Fornication breaks God order and orders and God clearly describes it repeatedly as the primary sin to avoid as NT believers. He obviously hates it so equating it to marriage in His eyes is contradictory error and makes no sense. It is the only sin one can commit against their own body. It will never be considered marriage in His eyes,

Because there is no commitment, there is no marriage, only sex, hence fornication.

 

No, it's not, but it looks that way to someone who doesn't understand marriage.

What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.​

So, first understanding that it is God that joins together and not sex, what could Paul be saying in that passage?

 

You haven't read everyone's posts.

 

Here is a question for you.

We are told Joseph took Mary as a wife before Christ was born. We're also told they abstained from sex until after He was born.

While on the way to Bethlehem, were Mary and Joseph one flesh?