The Biblical Basis for some Catholic Distinctives

the Baptism was to to have them bne identified as now being saved already by Grace of God, and as now belonging to His people.
Baptism is the outward sign of the interal salvation already done by God, and the person saved is making a public confession of that truth, something babies cannot do!

 

If you are attempting to convince a Baptist that you are not a cult then you failed miserably. This will only serve to confirm you are a bunch of mystics.

 

The qualification required in the NT was to be believing in jesus as Lord/Savior, can babkies do that? And ONLY the scriptures were inspired by God, No church father was, correct?

 

We are just trying to get them to admit that Rome teaches a false Gospel!

 

The Church of Christ was NOT the Church of Rome early on, and all of the recognized canon scriptures were accepted and jin use by early second century!

And Rome did add to the insspired books non inspired books, as its ONLY in those books they can find their doctrines from!

 

Steve do not include me in that group I do not bash Catholics or any other group, I do not worship with them, they have their own way of worship... Half of the problems in this world would go away if we would just help each other out without seeing what denomination someone else is... Is your Christianity in Christ or your denomination?... The poor and disheartened of this world just want someone to care, do you?... We have never said anything against any religion in my church, it is not permitted by members or ministers... Gods people come from all walks of life and if they are not Gods people why do they worship him?... I don't worry about how another man or woman worships their God, that is not my concern, that is between them and their God, my concern is how I personally worship mine and how I treat my fellowman... Isn't that what Jesus taught?... Brother Glen

 

If they are teaching it then Episcopal/Anglicans, Presbyterians, Reformed, Methodists & some Lutherans are also teaching it.Whats more, many sincerely believe in it.I will be nice & say that it is scriptural interpretation vs intentional going down the wrong road. You can offset that with strong belief in the Trinity, In the divinity of Christ, the incarnation etc.

But what I'd like to know is, if these sacraments all provide grace used to live a christian life & hopefully work to get you into eternity, then what is the job of the Holy Spirit?

 

splendid response Glen....I feel the same way.

 

The Church of Rome teaches that God saves us after we co operate enough with Him thru the Sacraments to be worthy/meriting the salvation, NOT the message of the scriptures!

 

Paul was very adament on this issue, as he stated that ANY doctriine that was different than the Gospel of Christ revealed to Him for us was to be judged as hellish doctrine, not from God!

 

Thank you for a kind and charitable post.

 

To clarrify, I am NOT bashing Catholics, as i see them walking in spiritual blindness, but am very against the official teachings/doctrines/dogmas of the Church of rome!

 

The early church accepted the canon of the OT that was at time of Christ, and that had no Aprocraph books included, and the first generation ECF pretty much had all of their scriptures quotes from what would be recognized duing that later Council!

 

God is the only one that knows the heart of that man or woman and you don't... Serve your God and tend to your own business and half of the problems in this world would be solved... I have been trying to serve God for over 50 years and their have been atrocities on both sides... Oh man you are without excuse before your God... I have a full time job examining myself without judging someone else... Brother Glen

 

We are commanded by God to earnestly contend for the true faith/true Gospel that saves lost sinners, per Jude 3, correct?

 

Explain to me one thing the thief on the cross... We know according to scripture, he wasn't saved by going to church... He didn't belong to any denomination, so we can rule that out... We can also rule out baptism, he wasn't... He didn't hear the gospel preached so we can also rule that out... Yet his heart was changed by God on a cross, after he had previously railed upon the Son Of God he cursed... The true/faith Gospel that saves lost sinners is the living one... Correct?.... Brother Glen

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

 

Yes, that would be the one paul and all of the Apostles taught, but that is not the one Rome teaches!

 

Why do you being Baptist which I also am concern yourself with what Rome teaches?... Concern yourself with what Christ teaches and leave these children of God alone!... Enough said... Brother Glen