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Featured The sin (singular) of the world

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by rlvaughn, Jul 31, 2018.

  1. HankD

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    Sin is a way of life to Adam's unregenerate race.

    Even before the "age of accountability".

    An apple tree is still an apple tree long before it bears fruit.
     
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    i know,
     
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    We are sinners with Adam not because of Adam
     
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    it we are slave to sin we could not be saved. We have a choice to sin or not
     
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    Semantic games.
     
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    John 8:34 Jesus answered them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, every one who commits sin is a slave to sin.
     
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    Are you asking about translation accuracy or about English grammar or the original language?
     
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    But we have a choice because were are spiritually individual unique beings, our souls are not connected. We sin with our souls not our bodies, normally
    KJV
    Jhn 8:33
    They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
    Jhn 8:34
    Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

    a bondman to sin
     
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    Not really. I am asking about the meaning. In what way might it be significant that "sin" is in the singular in this place? Is there one thing that is "the sin" of the whole world?
     
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    You know, I am probably wrong, but I always thought that a usage like that was meant to express a plural in thinking but was stated as a singular, especially in English as used by the KJV, and that is what the context suggests in view of my staggering inability to number my own sins with human mathematics unless I resort to infinity and just say ∞
     
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    this is our infinite number sin,
    1Jo 1:7

    But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
     
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    We cannot understand the Infinite God taking punishment for those He created.
     
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    I think this tends to be interpreted either as Adamic sin/original sin or the aggregate of all the sins of mankind. I hold the former, but am open to the latter. Here is the comments of some others on the verse, from Bible Hub.
     
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    True a bondman is in bondage to sin.

    "whosoever committeth sin..." This is a present participle :

    Essentials of New Testament Greek, Ray Summers,Broadman Press,1950, page 89.

    Every thankless breath we take is sin.
     
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    The fallen Angels are already under judgement, NO repenting from them!
     
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    Until Jesus sets you free, you are a slave to sin!
     
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    We were born with a sin nature due to the fall of Adam, as God saw him as failing in our place, and His sentence of physical and spiritual death passed unto all save for Jesus Christ!
     
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    prove it with verses
     
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    where did Adam get his sin nature?
     
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    We are not responsible for the sin of another, including Adam. nor is another's righteousness applicable to me.
     
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