The sin (singular) of the world

[HankD]

Adam bought sin into the physical world, you have the opportunity to sin through free will, A way of sin has been constituted or formed in which we suffer. The choice is ours to participate or not. The choice is ours the consequences are ours

Sin is a way of life to Adam's unregenerate race.

Even before the "age of accountability".

An apple tree is still an apple tree long before it bears fruit.

 

[loDebar]

We are not told if His death was/is for fallen angels as well as mankind.

However I don't know of any theologians who believe it was/is.

i know,

 

[loDebar]

Sin is a way of life to Adam's unregenerate race.

Even before the "age of accountability".

An apple tree is still an apple tree long before it bears fruit.

We are sinners with Adam not because of Adam

 

[loDebar]

We are responsible for our sin yet because of our father Adam we are also slaves to sin to do as it dictates.

Fish swim, birds fly, man sins.

it we are slave to sin we could not be saved. We have a choice to sin or not

 

[HankD]

We are sinners with Adam not because of Adam

Semantic games.

 

[HankD]

it we are slave to sin we could not be saved. We have a choice to sin or not

John 8:34 Jesus answered them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, every one who commits sin is a slave to sin.

 

[church mouse guy]

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

In this text, the sin/τὴν ἁμαρτίαν is singular. Though a few English translations render it "sins" plural, by far most of them translate it singular into English.

What is the significance, if any, of "sin" being singular in this statement? What is "the sin" of the world?

Are you asking about translation accuracy or about English grammar or the original language?

 

[loDebar]

John 8:34 Jesus answered them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, every one who commits sin is a slave to sin.

But we have a choice because were are spiritually individual unique beings, our souls are not connected. We sin with our souls not our bodies, normally
KJV
Jhn 8:33
They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
Jhn 8:34¶
Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

a bondman to sin

 

[rlvaughn]

Are you asking about translation accuracy or about English grammar or the original language?

Not really. I am asking about the meaning. In what way might it be significant that "sin" is in the singular in this place? Is there one thing that is "the sin" of the whole world?

 

[church mouse guy]

Not really. I am asking about the meaning. In what way might it be significant that "sin" is in the singular in this place? Is there one thing that is "the sin" of the whole world?

You know, I am probably wrong, but I always thought that a usage like that was meant to express a plural in thinking but was stated as a singular, especially in English as used by the KJV, and that is what the context suggests in view of my staggering inability to number my own sins with human mathematics unless I resort to infinity and just say ∞

 

[loDebar]

this is our infinite number sin,
1Jo 1:7

But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

 

[loDebar]

We cannot understand the Infinite God taking punishment for those He created.

 

[rlvaughn]

You know, I am probably wrong, but I always thought that a usage like that was meant to express a plural in thinking but was stated as a singular, especially in English as used by the KJV, and that is what the context suggests in view of my staggering inability to number my own sins with human mathematics unless I resort to infinity and just say ∞

I think this tends to be interpreted either as Adamic sin/original sin or the aggregate of all the sins of mankind. I hold the former, but am open to the latter. Here is the comments of some others on the verse, from Bible Hub.

John Gill: the "sin of the world", is...the sin which is common to the whole world, namely: original sin

Alexander McLaren: "John...says, ‘the sin of the world,’ as if the whole mass of human transgression was bound together, in one black and awful bundle, and laid upon the unshrinking shoulders of this better Atlas who can bear it all, and bear it all away. Your sin, and mine, and every man’s, they were all laid upon Jesus Christ."

Jamieson-Fausset-Brown: "the sin—The singular number being used to mark the collective burden and all-embracing efficacy."

H. A. W. Meyer: "the sins of the world conceived of as a collective unity"

Johann Bengel: "The singular number, with the article, [gives it] the greatest force. [There was] the one plague, which seized on all; He bore the whole"

 

[HankD]

But we have a choice because were are spiritually individual unique beings, our souls are not connected. We sin with our souls not our bodies, normally
KJV
Jhn 8:33
They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
Jhn 8:34¶
Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

a bondman to sin

True a bondman is in bondage to sin.

"whosoever committeth sin..." This is a present participle :

The present participle indicates continuous action

Essentials of New Testament Greek, Ray Summers,Broadman Press,1950, page 89.

Every thankless breath we take is sin.

 

[Yeshua1]

I said Jesus died for all sin,

Does this include the fallen angels or is Jesus death limited to humans?

The fallen Angels are already under judgement, NO repenting from them!

 

[Yeshua1]

it we are slave to sin we could not be saved. We have a choice to sin or not

Until Jesus sets you free, you are a slave to sin!

 

[Yeshua1]

We are sinners with Adam not because of Adam

We were born with a sin nature due to the fall of Adam, as God saw him as failing in our place, and His sentence of physical and spiritual death passed unto all save for Jesus Christ!

 

[loDebar]

The fallen Angels are already under judgement, NO repenting from them!

prove it with verses

 

[loDebar]

We were born with a sin nature due to the fall of Adam, as God saw him as failing in our place, and His sentence of physical and spiritual death passed unto all save for Jesus Christ!

where did Adam get his sin nature?

 

[loDebar]

We were born with a sin nature due to the fall of Adam, as God saw him as failing in our place, and His sentence of physical and spiritual death passed unto all save for Jesus Christ!

We are not responsible for the sin of another, including Adam. nor is another's righteousness applicable to me.