Featured The Nature of the Church, OT and NT

Apparently you do not understand what indwelt means. As such you and I can no longer discuss this issue.

 

It takes the new birth before one can have faith. So all the faithful in Hebrews 11 were born again.

Quoting Psalm Psalm 116:10 Paul compares out faith with theirs.

“We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak;” (2 Corinthians 4:13)

 

I said indwelt not born again.

 

It's a matter of degree. Pentecost brought the Charismatic gifts to many instead of just a few in the OT. But all had the Holy Spirit indwelling.

 

Show me where scripture says anyone had the HG indwelling. Good grief.

 

“Cast me not away from your presence, and take not your Holy Spirit from me.” (Psalm 51:11)

 

That does not say that the HG is indwelt. Again it appears you do not understand what indwelt is.

 

Again, all would have been atheists if not born again. Faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit.

 

Being born again does not mean automatically being indwelt.

 

In Acts, the only difference between believers before Pentecost and after was the Charismatic gifts. And this is the only difference between believers of old and at Pentecost.

 

No, but God did graft those beleiving OT saints into it!

 

The Church of the NT to me was Jesus calling together out of national Israel Spiritual Israel, made up of both saved jews/Gentiles.

 

David, he was afraid that the Spirit would depart from him...

 

One has to have the Holy Spirit residing in them to be born again!

 

Actual, it appears that the Old Covenant had regenerated sinners, but the Holy Spirit had not yet come to forever indwell them.

 

It might appear that way. But Paul says; “We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak;” (2 Corinthians 4:13)

 

the Spirit seemed to be indwelling under the OC only those with specific tasks for God, prophets and Kings though!

 

It's all a matter of degree. On the Day of Pentecost OT believers were already born again. But the Spirit poured out the Charismatic gifts which only few had in the OT. It was now more common place until the gifts ceased with the completion of the canon. The it was back to business as usual.

 

This has been discussed at length to most's satisfaction recently in regard to OT saints and if Jesus preached to them between the crucifixion and resurrection.
This verse prompted the discussion:

I Peter 4:6
For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit

If some did not realized the significance of this verse, it answers the OP directly. We also discussed how those from the Faith chapter are saved and can or when they entered Heaven.