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"In one holy catholic and apostolic Church; we acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins; we look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen. "

Then how about how the Nicene creed testify on how we receive the remission of sins?

It is by believing in Him is how we receive the remission of sins and thereby receive the promise of the Holy Ghost at our salvation.

Acts 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. 44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

The error in the Nicene creed may have misread Peter's words in Acts 2 by reading verse 38 out of context.

When the Jews heard that they had crucified the One that they had not believed in, and asked Peter what they were to do, Peter said to repent, which in following Peter's witnessing and the people's inquiry in panic, is to believe in the One that had not believed in.

Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. 37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

So it is in rightly dividing the word of truth in Acts is how that the Nicene creed epically in error at for how we are to receive the remission of sins.

And doesn't calling that one Church holy doesn't bother you yet when we are not prefect yet? I believe Jesus will accomplish this one day, but we can't claim to be holy now when that is our hope in Him..

Ephesians 5:23That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

And it is a false witness to testify of our selves when we are testifying of the church we belong to as being holy.

John 5:31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.

John 7:18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.

2 Corinthians 4:5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake. 6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. 7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. 3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

So there are error in that line in the Nicene creed as well.

"And in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of life, who proceedeth from the Father, who with the Father and the Son together is worshiped and glorified, who spake by the prophets."

Jesus is the Giver of life ( John 6:33 ) and because some Bibles capitalize spirit in John 6:63 & 2 Corinthians 3:6, is why that error exists in the Nicene creed, and so which scripture is correct? John 5:39-40 says scripture is to testify of the Son in coming to Him for life. Therefore discern that error.

Then ponder the mystery why Pentecostals and Charismatics and Catholics for when they put the focus on the Holy Spirit in worship, honoring the Holy Spirit in worship, praying to the Holy Spirit to come into the worship place and even fall on them after a sign, you can get slain in the spirit and holy laughter by that same invocation as well?

Why would God allow them to suffer that strong delusion unless they are believing a lie and thus in an iniquity for why He permits it?

How is it that by not heeding His words that He is the only way to God the Father in worship, that they are falling by that spirit when they were addressing the Person of the Holy Spirit in worship?

Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it...……..

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

Then you may know why Jesus did not mention the Holy Spirit in John 5:23 nor John 14:6 as the other way to come to God the Father by in worship or by honoring the Father by honoring the Holy Spirit, "instead" of the Son.

 

The Lord has to help me, brother, and I am trusting Him to so okay.

Nicene creed of 381 A.D. can be seen as held responsible.

The Holy Spirit does not have to be in the world to do that when He is in us to do that.

John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 Of sin, because they believe not on me; 10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

The Father draws men unto the Son; John 6:44 and He reveals the Son even to babes ( Matthew 11:25-27 ) so He knows whom seeks Him to receive Him from those that prefer their evil deeds : John 3:18-21

If you mean the worship place where believers gather, then I disagree, specially when our bodies are the temples of the Holy Spirit now as a testimony to the Jews that would have the Presence of God at their Temple in Jerusalem. So there is a need to be in according to our faith as dwelling in us always to oppose the former things and to stand apart from other spirits in the world.

We would not be led by the Holy Spirit to even give Himself a quiet worship. Those led by the Spirit of God would be doing exactly what the Holy Spirit has been sent to do; to honor the Son by testifying of the Son in seeking the glory of the Son, and thereby honoring and glorifying God the Father and that is especially in worship, not just the mission field.