The Great Irony

Christ did not take on our sin nor our curse at the incarnation. As you know He remained sinless.

Scripture says He took on sin. It does not say He took on our curse in that verse. In other words He took on our guilt. Just as we took on His righteousness. Christ became guilty of our sin. Therefore He took on the penalty for our sin.

 

Being made sin is talking about taking on the guilt, being made the curse is taking on the penalty.

 

You seem to presenting the same exact thing in both cases and then calling them different. I am not sure how you are seeing them as different.

 

When the father saw Jesus as being the Sin Bearer, as becoming Sin for our benefit, was he not under the wrath of God as a propiation for sins we have done?

 

Jesus was cursed by God while hanging on that tree...

 

Punishment for what though exactly, for Jesus would not have died, as he had done no sin!

 

Jesus was forsaken by God while on that Cross, was that not being under the curse?

 

Just stating the obvious by way of reminder.
Our biggest problem is trying to figure out God with human reasoning.

We try to tell ourselves "that just doesn't make any sense for God to do that or to be like that".
And sometimes that works and is logic that is of the truth, however...

Ecclesiastes 8:17 Then I beheld all the work of God, that a man cannot find out the work that is done under the sun: because though a man labour to seek it out, yet he shall not find it; yea further; though a wise man think to know it, yet shall he not be able to find it.

Isaiah 55
8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

God does allow human reason and logic but there are requirements/qualifications:

Isaiah 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Prayer (maybe fasting) and the word are necessary elements in knowing God,His ways and methods to obtain His will in the time frame that pleases Him.

The Bible is the final authority in all matters of belief and practice because the Bible is inspired by God and bears the absolute authority of God Himself.

Sometimes that defies human logic.

 

Models of atoning sacrifices under the two covenants.

The sacrifices under the law required no "punishment" (no beating, no whipping, no nailing to a cross, etc...) to the victim, the jugular was sliced and the creature was not "punished" but was painlessly bled out and then burned.

Not so with Christ however, the cross was horrific punishment at the hands of both Jew and Gentile alike.

Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

and Isaiah 53 following...

 

Jesus was not guilty of committing a capital offense, but he was found to be the One who bore in Himself the penalty rightfully due us for our committed sins!

 

Jesus suffered as none in history ever did, for when he took on the sin debt owed to God, he experienced Hell and being forsaken, while still remaining the spotless Lamb of God!