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Dungeon & Dragons Bible Study?
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Yeah. Pretty much my thoughts. That's about like having a Bible study and then shooting Meth.
As someone who was heavily invested in the game as a teen I can say that it is far more harmful than a Superbowl game. It is evil and those who play it may not become involved in a cult but it teaches and encourages the worship of God's other than the one true and living God. I could go on.
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Ok, you have "Christian" parents having their children actively participate in pagan rituals traditionally 2-3 times per year. And a twenty-sided die, which never occurred in pagan times, is causing people to worship other gods.
Yes. Please do. I would like to know how picking up an eight-sided-die caused you to drop to your knees and worship Satan.
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Dungeons and Dragons is as healthy for your Spiritual development as Meth addiction is.
Once again, no evidence. Just outright lying while supporting Meth addiction.
Why do you support Meth addiction?
Heretic Hunter
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Why are you having such a difficult time accepting the fact that D&D is Satanic?
Please answer this question: Did you read my first post to you on this thread? Can you go through that post and refute anything that I wrote? Dungeon & Dragons Bible Study?
You're assuming a reality that doesn't exist.
Why didn't all the witches at Salem admit to their obvious guilt?
I have been avoiding most of your posts because your posts make you seem very unstable. I was a little afraid about what you would do. And the Bold Blood-Red font didn't help much to make me feel otherwise.
I did read some of your posts on other threads, so I thought I'd take the chance.
Unlikely. Part of what you wrote were personal experiences. I can't dispute what you say you experienced.
The primary claim you make and likely others is D&D is idol/demon worship. You provide no evidence for this besides your personal experience. I have never seen it and I've seen quite a bit. I'm not going to deny that there isn't some fringe group that actually uses D&D for idol and/or demon worship. That doesn't make the playing of D&D everywhere to be demon worship.
Lots were used to select sacrifices to idols before the Apostles used them to select the next apostle. Were the Apostles Demon worshippers?
You have shown nothing within the current game itself which requires demon or idol worship. You have only given personal testimony. That's not proof.
You then give a bunch of passages about idol and demon worship which are irrelevant because you haven't done anything to show D&D = demon/idol worship.
Teenage girls wailing when the condemned are about to speak just won't convince me.
Heretic Hunter
Active Member
If you can't take our word for it, and heed the warning, then it's on you. I'm not offended by your personal remarks. I do however suggest that you make an effort to do an exhaustive research on the subject.
I'll share another experience, in seeing what goes on behind the scenes, I have witnessed their references of the Salem Witch Trials, in how they were displeased that their predecessors were burned. They hate Christians; they hate Christianity; they hate God.
Sometimes, seeing is believing. But until you have seen and experienced it, as you admitted, you cannot refute me. You are quick to point out that my testimony is not proof. If you were a bit more humble, and asked me, I might would have shared some proof. There is proof that is already out there. All you have to do is research it for yourself. If all you are going to do is mock, ridicule, and name call, that only tells me that you are not serious about wanting to know the facts. I have had many conversations with people that "don't care" .... people that are members of the Occult, whether they be Satanists/atheists/Witches or whatever, when I reach out to them with the Gospel in hope of seeing some be saved. I can tell you that it is heart wrenching at times, because unlike you, that have not seen what is done by them in secret, they have and do, and they "don't care" and reject the truth of Jesus Christ.
What troubles me more, and I do mean more, than the heart wrenching "don't care" attitude from them, is when a professing Believer will make similar remarks and gestures. What is "unstable" is when people reject Jesus Christ in this life, follow after the Occult of Freemasonry, or related Occult False Prophet Groups, such as the Jehovah's Witnesses, Adventists, Mormons, and such. Or when they play around with Occult games like D&D, the Ouija Board, and other similar games, because they are void of understanding what is written in The Holy Bible, not knowing that they are given over to reprobate minds, because they loved and worshipped the creation (Satan) instead of the Creator Jesus Christ.
If this doesn't stir your conscience, there is nothing more that I can say to you, except that I will say that I will pray for you.
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Any non moron who has played the game knows it's based in Satanic symbolism and role playing.
For anyone who needs help figuring out the obvious: Chick.com: Should a Christian Play Dungeons and Dragons?
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Right. It's so obvious you still can't point out anything wrong with the game they are playing at the Bible Study.
And then because you can't point out anything, you just attach a website with nothing but made-up stuff. This is a properly referenced paper.
Michael A. Stackpole: The Pulling Report
The link made up nothing.
No more time to waste on you.
I am not going to respond to his inane post other than in a general sense. He put words in my mouth. Shame on him.
That was simply a method of voting. The lot mentioned was a pebble, black or white. "The ancients used pebbles (psêphoi) in voting, black for condemning, white (Re 2:17) in acquitting" (A.T. Robertson, Word Pictures in the New Testament, accessed through PowerBible software).
Any clues on the lots cast in Matthew 27:35?
Any relation to the Ἀνερρίφθω κύβος of Caesar/Rubicon fame?
I haven’t heard of this possibility. It will take me a while to study it further.
The Message paraphrase says the same. Although, I don’t think this is the case seeing the example in Deuteronomy 16:6-8. Aaron actually had sacred lots, so that wouldn’t work as an alternate example. Although I’m unconvinced that casting lots = casting votes, I’d rather not have an example rest on something possibly dubious. So, I’ll withdraw this particular example unless I find more stable ground.
The Greek word for "lots" is kleros. It has a number of meanings, and does sometimes mean to cast lots in a "lucky" way, but it also can mean a method of voting, and it seems clear to A. T. Robertson (the greatest Greek scholar of the 20th century) that voting is the meaning in Acts 1. By the way, the verb in Acts 1:26 is not "cast" (ballo in other passages) but "gave" (edokan from didomi).
The core meaning is simply the little stone itself ("pebble, small stick, etc.," BAGD, p. 435). The soldiers at the foot of the cross cast lots for Christ's garments, and personally I think that was a dice game, which the Roman soldiers historically played.
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Ok, you have "Christian" parents having their children actively participate in pagan rituals traditionally 2-3 times per year. And a twenty-sided die, which never occurred in pagan times, is causing people to worship other gods.
Is this a reference to Christmas and Easter, as your post #9 might imply? It's true the world has made these holidays into commercial "paganism", but to infer that (scare quotes) Christians who celebrate these days are doing something other than praising God for the Incarnation and Resurrection is knowledge neither you nor I should try to claim.
Is this a reference to Christmas and Easter, as your post #9 might imply? It's true the world has made these holidays into commercial "paganism", but to infer that (scare quotes) Christians who celebrate these days are doing something other than praising God for the Incarnation and Resurrection is knowledge neither you nor I should try to claim.
Hello,
I didn’t realize just how little many people may have known about this. I assumed most people knew.
Most of the traditions and rituals practice during Christmas and Easter are pagan. (The idea of the “spirit of Christmas” and many other Christmas traditions and charity come from Charles Dickens.) The evergreen tree and giving gifts to children are pagan rituals during the winter solstace. In early Christianity, the idea of celebrating the birthday of Christ was considered anathema.
Saturnalia - Wikipedia
https://www.history.com/topics/christmas/history-of-christmas-trees
Eggs during the celebration of spring equinox for Ishtar. The egg-laying rabbit comes from pagan legend of the goddess Ostara whom the holiday is named after.
The Ancient Pagan Origins of Easter
Did I just kill Santa Claus for you? Just joking. In my opinion, the way to respond to this is not to stick your head in the sand and deny all pagan connections in these holdays. Unfortunately, this is the reaction of many Christians. I suggest a different stance.
The pagan religions have been co-opted. Although the trappings are there, no one actually puts any belief into the holday. The rituals involving orgies and the such are gone and the rituals promoting family and children have been kept. No children are converting to the pagan worship of Saturn or Ostara. I just don’t see the threat to Christianity.
Going back to D&D, I don’t see any the the obvious pagan rituals in D&D. In fact, almost all of the game is either based on Christian, Catholic, and Jewish mythos, completely made up, or based on early to mid 20th century literature which also completely made stuff up. Yes, the game is a great big hodge-podge. No one who plays the game believes any of what is happening in the game is real. Anyone who does is delusional, ignorant, or mentally ill.
I have never seen idol or satan worship in a D&D game. And the fact that some here think that a story about a knight riding a unicorn (KJVO) while slaying a cockatrice (KJVO) is satanic and evil makes me concerned about their mental health.
The “Pulling Reort” proves otherwise, but you didn’t even bother to read it. You obviously have an ingrained reason to remain ignorant.
You didn’t waste anytime condemning other Christians. At most you spend a few minutes with your hatred.