Dungeon & Dragons Bible Study?

Really?! Playing the victim card?

I thought only millennials did that. I guess they had to learn it from someone. It’s a great way to avoid having to deal with an arguement you are losing.

Lets start with what you said.

“It is evil” and “it teaches and encourages the worship of God’s [sic] other than the one true and living God.”

This is what you are pushing on Weston Weast. You are claiming that this Christian is encouraging others to partipate in “evil” and “teaching the worship of God’s [sic] other than the one true and living God”. I’m sorry but this sounds like something right up there with sleeping with your step-mother. You’re making a very serious charge against another Christian.

“I could go on”

At best you were going to give some more personal experiences. At worst, you had nothing and were willing to condemn other Christians on nothing. So I prompted you to provide more information with an obviously hyperbolic statement.

But you ignore everything and claim undeserved victim status.

How very millennial of you.

 

Do we have to use Wikipedia as a source? Our college students are not allowed to on their research papers. It's full of suspect, contrary, and downright wrong information. Proven scholars can be overruled by rank amateurs. We do allow the students to look there for direction, but not for information, or we take off points.

 

Um, no. Wikipedia is not a good source for these matters. Who wrote this? What qualifications did he/she have to pontificate? When there is no author listed, modern academia rejects the source. But at least Wikipedia footnotes things so one can check the sources. History.com does not have either author or sources listed. That's a huge no-no if you are writing a paper for a class of mine. You might lose a whole grade point on your paper.

Again, a lousy source. This webpage doesn't even have an "About Us" page so we tell who the website represents. And no authors listed for the articles, and no sourcing (footnotes, etc.). I wouldn't trust it for five seconds.

Santa Claus was never alive for me--except for Saint Nicholas, who was said to have slapped Arius the heretic. My kind of man!

But seriously, the idea that Christmas and Eater were from those heathen festivals is only a theory. Wikipedia (with all its faults) mentioned a more likely scenario, that Christians adopted a Christian holiday to counteract the attraction of the pagan holiday, holding it at the same time. This is something that happens on mission fields all over the world even nowadays. Many good churches in Japan have alternate gatherings (often camp) in August at the time of the heathen Bon Festival, which celebrates the idea that souls come back from Hell for one day a year, so they must put out Japanese lanterns so the souls can see their way (don't look behind you!), and then entertain them with dances, music and snacks.

 

First, you need to realize that this was not written for you. It was written for someone who knew nothing about the subject. Tertiary sources are fine for this.

"the idea that Christmas and Eater were from those heathen festivals is only a theory" - So you agree that it is a valid theory.

So, what are we arguing about? Origin? Or similarity of the holiday to the pagan religions? Choice of dates? What?

You're not writing coherently enough for me to understand exactly what you are arguing about. Take a breath and take some time to state your points. We may already agree on some points.

And remember, I'm not writing a paper for you and and I will not treat you like a superior.

 

When one is desperate to create a narrative but has no solid support for it I guess any source will do. Thanks for your clear and coherent post.

 

Your post is full of logical fallacies:

1. Strawman
2. tu quoque


When you fix your errors of logic let me know and I will be glad to address your concerns further.

 

But even the BB requires sourcing.

All theories are valid to one extent to another. This one is completely unproven by anything but coincidence.

I think you were arguing about D&D. I only wanted to add some balance to your accusations against Christmas and Eater (sic--speaking of coherency).

Carry on about D&D.

I don't think of you as an inferior--never meant to insinuate that. (I may have a superior education--don't know--but that's another issue.) But if you are quite happy with inferior sources, that's your business.... But for reasons already stated, your sources are all unreliable.

 

Adding [sic] is completely appropriate with those who are saying they are being taken out of context or misquoted.

I am not Rippon. I do not know who he is.

I am not the one to say another group of Christians I have not met is doing evil while insisting on not providing any evidence to support the claim.

 

What is BB?

 

If you mean Baptist Board, I have not seen any rules regarding sources and would gladly follow them if you point them out.

 

Um, "Baptist Board." Read the rules.

 

The rules are against plagiarism. I don't think you have done that, but the type of websites you have sourced sometimes do. They are inferior sources of information.

 

I used "sic" my own self, but it was in answer to Marty's charge that I was incoherent--he was talking about some holiday named "Eater".

Oh, and I'm pretty sure Rippon is not here any more due to some name-calling he did. I miss his insults--NOT!

 

1. Definition of STRAW MAN

There is no straw man. Weston is a real person. It's what this thread is all about. But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I just completely misunderstood you.

Just say "Weston organizing Bible Studies with two hours of D&D played afterward is not evil." and I will fully and completely apologize about everything I've written to you in this thread. Because if you say this, then I did completely misunderstand you.

2. Definition of TU QUOQUE

First, it has nothing to do with logic. Second, it implies that I was dodging or evading some failure of my own. I did not. I specifically mentioned my rhetorical hyperbole. Everyone knew it was hyperbole and no one thought what I mentioned actually happened. You were quoted in full and everyone could see that you did not say that.

 

I will agree that they aren't great - most free sources aren't. I don't think there was any plagiarism.

That being said, on this thread, you are walking through a garbage dump pointing out the trash.

 

This shows you do not yet understand what a strawman is.

Ditto

 

Internet video games of all types are addictive. They were literally made to be addictive. People are whining about my adding links, so I will just simple say to do a web search on "video game addiction". Tons to read about.

I will agree that video game addiction is a problem.

However, D&D addiction is laughable. It doesn't exist. People drop it just as easily as they pick it up.

I have not seen D&D obsession. Just look at this forum. All the people claiming to have played D&D and not one even tiny bit of obsession. Russell Moore saw some teenagers talking about D&D and concluded it was an obsession. Once again, another unverifiable personal experience.

In my opinion, Russell chose an easy target because identifying a real obsession people have - FOOTBALL - might have gotten him into trouble.

Even in ancient times, sports were what people obsessed about.

 

Very well. We disagree and are at an impasse.