Deity of Christ presented in English Bible translations

[Logos1560]

The thread has a Different motive that any reasonable person can see.

Perhaps erroneous KJV-only reasoning has blinded you or hinders you from seeing the truth.

This proper thread has the correct motive of presenting the truth that other English Bible translations clearly present the deity of the Lord Jesus Christ in contrast to the misleading, bogus KJV-only allegations.

 

[Yeshua1]

You maybe starting to see the light ......but I doubt it.

You left on that part where trying to get you to admit that YOU see the 1611 as being only infallible translation!

 

[Yeshua1]

Yes and in another thread here on the BB .........some blinded false teachers think satan is a type of Christ ! But as you point out they are greekin’ and twisting. Sad and shocking.

That blinded teacher appears to know the actual scripture better than you do though!

 

[Forever Settled]

Would you like to see dozens of examples of "comma" (TRICKS) arguments made by the Watchtower Society of Jehovah's Witnesses to undermine what is written in The Holy Bible as they wrest the scriptures to teach doctrines of devils? As I said before, your arguments are not your own. They originated with the Satanic Gnostics of Occult!

Why would a guy critic the Holy Bible.......using the VERY same techniques of an infamous cult........unless they have the VERY same agenda ?

 

[Yeshua1]

That is NOT true. The Jehovah's Witnesses are very well trained in spiritual warfare, and know exactly which mis-translated srciptures, to use, in each of those Gnostic Persions to deny the Deity of Christ, teach against The Holy Trinity, to beguile the minds of the masses. Collectively, the S.D.A., JWs, and Mormons have a combined total of deceived adherents of more than 60 million. Of those 60 million "members" consist of many millions of people that were once Baptists. Now take a moment to stew on those staggering statistics with the realization of their tools and tactics. They brag for being "well organized" like a "well oiled machine". That's more than 60 MILLION people that are DECEIVED into believing "another jesus" that is not Jesus, but is Satan! They all use the tricks of the Devil to deceive the masses!

And their translation of choice would be?

 

[Heretic Hunter]

What you point out confirms this thread has nothing to do with getting to the truth.

The thread has a Different motive that any reasonable person can see.

Based upon my knowledge of the works of the Gnostics of the Occult, I see this as nothing more than damage control based upon the arguments made in the previous thread, laced with smoke screens to keep the unstable and unlearned deceived about the Occult Agenda agenda against The Holy Bible, and to keep them deceived with the Gnostic practice of running to the Greek, with the effort to keep them ever learning and never able to come to a full knowledge of the truth. This is spiritual warfare being made against the Church in this Forum.

 

[Yeshua1]

I agree with you. There are several that teach "another jesus", and they have demonstrated the hatred for The Holy Bible in their antichrist propaganda! I have posted two smoking gun examples as concrete evidence on this thread. The question that we must ask now, is "Why is this evidence being willfully ignored by the Author of this thread?" along with "What is the motive, if it is not to deceive?" and "Where is the repentance and willingness to discuss this factual evidence?"

To you, ANY one not advocating for KJVO would be teaching against scripture, and holding to another Jesus!

 

[Yeshua1]

Why would a guy critic the Holy Bible.......using the VERY same techniques of an infamous cult........unless they have the VERY same agenda ?

Again, you would see ANY English translation other than 1611 Kjv as being in error and wrong!

 

[Logos1560]

your arguments are not your own. They originated with the Satanic Gnostics of Occult

You have failed to prove your bogus, incorrect allegations to be true.

Your repeating of improper, false allegations does not make them become true.

My scripturally-based arguments did not originate with Satanic gnostics of occult so your allegation would bear false witness.

 

[Forever Settled]

The hissers are So busted.

 

[Yeshua1]

Would you like to see dozens of examples of "comma" (TRICKS) arguments made by the Watchtower Society of Jehovah's Witnesses to undermine what is written in The Holy Bible as they wrest the scriptures to teach doctrines of devils? As I said before, your arguments are not your own. They originated with the Satanic Gnostics of Occult!

Would the 1611 translators be using those same tricks then? As they practiced textual criticism, and they did NOT view their Kjv as being either perfect, nor not needing any future revising!

 

[Yeshua1]

The hissers are So busted.

If you mean those advocating KJVO....

 

[Heretic Hunter]

And their translation of choice would be?

Their mis-translation of choice will be any mis-translation a person has in their hand, when the JWs come knocking on people's doors. JWs use both the N.W.T. and N.I.V. and they have Watchtower software on their phones and i-pads to use when engaging people with other mis-translations. Pick up a telephone book, and call any Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses and put what I have shared here to the test.

 

[Forever Settled]

Would the 1611 translators be using those same tricks then? As they practiced textual criticism, and they did NOT view their Kjv as being either perfect, nor not needing any future revising!

They stated their work would be polished Gold...........did you miss that ?

 

[Logos1560]

Why would a guy critic the Holy Bible.......using the VERY same techniques of an infamous cult........unless they have the VERY same agenda ?

I have not been a critic of the Holy Bible given by inspiration of God to the prophets and apostles. In agreement with actual clear scriptural truths, I acknowledge that errors introduced by men can be and should be corrected in Bible translations.

Do you in effect assert that the KJV translators supposedly used the same techniques of an infamous cult when they supported the correcting of errors introduced by imperfect men? Are you attacking the agenda of the Church of England makers of the KJV?

The KJV translators acknowledged that they engaged in a process of Bible correcting [that is, making corrections, improvements, and revisions to the pre-1611 English Bibles which they identified as being the word of God], and later editors/printers of KJV editions also engaged in a process of Bible correcting in making some corrections and revisions to the 1611 edition of the KJV.

In their dedication to King James, the KJV translators maintained that their translation would be "one more exact translation of the holy Scriptures into the English tongue," which would put their translation on the same level or in the same category as pre-1611 English Bibles such as the 1560 Geneva Bible and the 1568 Bishops' Bible.

Those who read the KJV are in effect accepting Bible correcting so that the obvious hypocrisy of those who make the inconsistent charge of Bible correcting against readers of other English Bible translations is clearly exposed.

The KJV translators asserted that if anything in a Bible translation was "not so agreeable to the original, the same may be corrected."

In their 1611 preface to the readers, the KJV translators wrote: "For by this means it cometh to pass, that whatsoever is sound already (and all is sound for substance in one or other of other editions, and the worst of ours far better than their authentic vulgar) the same will shine as gold more brightly, being rubbed and polished; also, if any thing be halting, or superfluous, or not so agreeable to the original, the same may be corrected and the truth set in place."

The KJV translators also asserted: "No cause therefore why the word translated should be denied to be the word, or forbidden to be current, notwithstanding that some imperfections and blemishes may be noted in the setting forth of it

 

[Forever Settled]

The KJV translators also asserted: "No cause therefore why the word translated should be denied to be the word, or forbidden to be current, notwithstanding that some imperfections and blemishes may be noted in the setting forth of it

Yep speaking of the printers errors that cause you so much joy.

 

[Forever Settled]

For by this means it cometh to pass, that whatsoever is sound already (and all is sound for substance in one or other of other editions, and the worst of ours far better than their authentic vulgar) the same will shine as gold more brightly, being rubbed and polished; also, if any thing be halting, or superfluous, or not so agreeable to the original, the same may be corrected and the truth set in place."

Yep they were going to correct any wrong in the other Bibles available to them at that time.

 

[Logos1560]

deceived about the Occult Agenda agenda against The Holy Bible

You fail to prove that any Baptist believers in this forum have any so-called "occult agenda" against the KJV.

I read and accept the KJV as what it actually is. I present the truth concerning the KJV.

 

[Logos1560]

Yep speaking of the printers errors that cause you so much joy.

You fail to demonstrate that the KJV translators were directly referring to printers errors in their statement. Their statement would be as soundly directed at errors by Bible translators as by errors by printers.

if any thing be halting, or superfluous, or not so agreeable to the original, the same may be corrected and the truth set in place."

Errors would still be errors regardless of which imperfect men introduced them.

 

[Heretic Hunter]

Perhaps erroneous KJV-only reasoning has blinded you or hinders you from seeing the truth.

This proper thread has the correct motive of presenting the truth that other English Bible translations clearly present the deity of the Lord Jesus Christ in contrast to the misleading, bogus KJV-only allegations.

That is the argument that Jehovah's Witnesses would use on Christians that don't gullibly swallow their antichrist heresies, so it is no surprise to see the same type of accusations propagated by their counter-parts that have crept unawares into the Churches. They, like the S.D.A. hate The Holy Bible; they always have, and it's the very reason why they "run to the Greek" to wrest the Scriptures to propagate their antichrist doctrines of devils. What brings unity among brethren?