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Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Zog Has-fallen, Feb 16, 2019.

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  1. loDebar

    loDebar Well-Known Member

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    Ask the board,

    When they are shown the significance of a passage they usually accept the idea.

    fyi , find a Young's Literal Translation and read the forward.
     
    #21 loDebar, Feb 20, 2019
  2. HankD

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    Yes the Bible can be honestly translated into English.

    HankD (A former assistant pastor)
     
    #22 HankD, Feb 20, 2019
  3. loDebar

    loDebar Well-Known Member

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    yes, The original languages do not flow as English and of course has punctuation when the originals do not. It is awkward to follow word to word translation , Read the Young's or find a linear translation to see changes
     
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  4. Zog Has-fallen

    Zog Has-fallen Member

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    Are there any Baptist pastors that agree with you (that the Scriptures cited in post #10 are unrelated) or is this just your idea?
     
    #24 Zog Has-fallen, Feb 20, 2019
  5. loDebar

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    I don't know. I assume there are many of the basic Baptist believers who expect and teach the return of Jesus is to come.
     
    #25 loDebar, Feb 20, 2019
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    Zog Has-fallen Member

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    It sounds like you are now backpedaling with the confession that the Scriptures cited in post #10 are related.
     
    #26 Zog Has-fallen, Feb 20, 2019
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    One little prob...JESUS HASN'T YET RETURNED ! !
     
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    nope, you are taught from a humanistic earthly perspective, it is wrong
     
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    It's not a problem! It's just a riddle, which the book of Revelation answers by revealing 3 scenarios.
     
    #29 Zog Has-fallen, Feb 21, 2019
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    I agree with the Partial Preterists on that thread. Satan had been active against God's Old Covenant people, while keeping the Gentiles captive & in ignorance of God. Jesus came to destroy his works, "to bind the strong man" but whose influence on the unbelieving Jews continued until the AD 70 destruction in their jealousy against the Gospel, especially spreading to the Gentiles.

    That began the Gospel age millennium as the Gospel spread through the nations without the Jews having any base to destroy the Church. The fact that evil men continue to war against the church is consistent with prophecy.

    In a real sense, Jesus came in AD 70 to do what he prophesied on Olivet, while "this generation" continued. They "saw" him as the understood his prophecy of their destruction was realised. See my Peter's prophecy thread.
     
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    But He has not yet fulfilled the Israel restoration prophecies - e.g. Zechariah 14.
     
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    I'm not aware that the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70 marked a significant turning point for Christians historically. I believe that the exceeding power of the Holy Spirit and the unprecedented turning of the Christians toward sharing the gospel with the gentiles, which angered the Jews mightily, was the beginning of the gospel age. Furthermore, most certainly, Jesus didn't return on clouds to the earth in the same manner that the disciples saw Him ascend to heaven.

    Acts 1:6-11
    So when they had come together, they asked him, “Lord, will you at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?” He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed by his own authority. But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.” And when he had said these things, as they were looking on, he was lifted up, and a cloud took him out of their sight. And while they were gazing into heaven as he went, behold, two men stood by them in white robes, and said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven.”
     
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