Featured How much influence does God have in salvation?

Although it is our responsibility to choose to believe in Christ unto salvation and we will be held accountable for unbelief (John 3:18), saving belief/faith in Christ is never exclusively a matter of human decision. Unless the Father draws us in and enables us (John 6:44,65) we would NEVER come to believe in Christ unto salvation all by ourselves. The approach of the soul to Christ is initiated by the Father, but He doesn't force us to choose to believe in Christ, we must choose to believe in Him. The impulse to faith in Christ comes from God.

 

Absolutely. God is God and He can do whatever He wills.

2. Does God use the same amount of influence on every person, or does He use differing amounts of influence on different people?[/QUOTE]
Every man has the same degree of availability and access to salvation.
Luke 2:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. (KJV)
John 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. (KJV)
Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, (KJV)

It is my opinion, based upon the Word of God, that every man ever born on this planet, if he is a sincere seeker, will be given an opportunity to be saved. God is certainly able and is a "rewarder of them that diligently seek Him" (Hebrews 11:6).

 

God does influence men to come to Him. This is the purpose of preaching the gospel to every creature. He convicts us of our unbelief, and our other sins He convinces us of our need of Him and teaches us that His way is the right way.

I believe He does but the reason some still do not come is not because of His efforts being weaker or stronger, but because of the persons will to reject Him. The Jew rejected Him. I know of people who experience the draw and have come close to being convinced of Him yet they resisted. all have different reasons. Mostly they are afraid they will have to give something up. Usually a sin they are in love with.

A rich young man came to Jesus once and asked how he might have eternal life. Christ simply said to sell what he had and give it to the poor and come and follow Him. He could not do it because of His wealth. The love of money can be so strong that it controls the person. The love of the world can be that strong as well

It's not a matter of what God can do because he can do anything He desires to do. His decision not to use such force on man is because He Loves man so much He wants men to choose Him as He has already chosen man.
MB

 

1. Why did God put us on this Earth?

2. What did Jesus come to save us from?

 

9 But I will sacrifice unto thee with the voice of thanksgiving; I will pay that that I have vowed. Salvation is of the LORD. Jonah 2

26 For behold your calling, brethren, that not many wise after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
27 but God chose the foolish things of the world, that he might put to shame them that are wise; and God chose the weak things of the world, that he might put to shame the things that are strong;
28 and the base things of the world, and the things that are despised, did God choose, yea and the things that are not, that he might bring to nought the things that are:
29 that no flesh should glory before God.
30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who was made unto us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption:
31 that, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord. 1 Cor 1

 

How much influence does God have in Salvation?...

ALL OF IT!... Brother Glen

 

Well, the human condition being, "There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God." -- Romans 3:11. And Jesus claimed, "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.. It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me." -- John 6:44-45.

 

The op lacks an understanding of scripture and the free will position. Scripture says all know God exists because of the creation that surrounds us. The gospel is sent where it has the power to convince everyone to be saved. So the influence according to scripture is three fold:

1. Natural revelation i.e. the creation that surrounds us.
2. Special revelation i.e. the gospel.
3. The gospel is delivered by man sent by God.

All of this is found in the first and tenth chapters of the book of Romans. If that was read and understood such questions that are found in the op would not be asked.

 

The only people that get saved are those that God foreknew and draws to himself because of his sovereign will. If he does not choose, they are not drawn, if they are not drawn, they do not believe.

 

This is some of the best preaching, pastor Bob, MJ, and Danthemailman. So much better than any Calvinist answer.

 

No, sir, you are misquoting me.

I said, "It is my opinion, based upon the Word of God, that every man ever born on this planet, if he is a sincere seeker, will be given an opportunity to be saved."

You said I said, "...every man on the planet gets the same opportunity to be saved..."

It is obvious that those of us born in nations where the Word of God is freely preached and taught have a greater opportunity than those who are not.

 

No harm - no foul.

Those like Cornelius.
Acts 10:1 There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band,
2 A devout man, and one that feared God [even in his lost condition] with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God always [even as a lost man].
3 He saw in a vision evidently about the ninth hour of the day an angel of God coming in to him, and saying unto him, Cornelius.
4 And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God. [God is responding to a sincere seeker]
5 And now send men to Joppa, and call for one Simon, whose surname is Peter:
6 He lodgeth with one Simon a tanner, whose house is by the sea side: he shall tell thee what thou oughtest to do. (KJV) [God made sure that Cornelius heard the gospel]

Consider also Lydia:
Acts 16:14 And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard us: whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul. (KJV)

She worshipped God, the best way she knew how, as a lost woman. God rewarded her sincerity by opening her heart. She was saved when she "attended" to the gospel.

No. All men are given a degree of light (John 1:9). There is the light of creation (Romans 1:20). The light of conscience (Romans 2:14-16). And, the light of Scripture (Romans 3:1-2).

In my opinion, yes.

Again, in my opinion, based upon the Word of God, absolutely. God will continue to give more light if a person responds to the light they have been given.
Mark 4:24 And he said unto them, Take heed what ye hear: with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you: and unto you that hear shall more be given. (KJV)

 

I would say there are men who never hear the word of God. What you are over looking is the fact; Truth is scripture can say it better than I can. So here it is;
Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Just because a man never hears the word of God does not mean they do not know of God. Even the some Indian tribes in America worshiped the great creator of the Earth and Universe we live in. They worshiped this Great creator long before white men ever came here. You may say but it wasn't the God we worship. I believe it is the same. He is described by them as the Great Creator. Who else could it be?

Creation just screams there is a Creator. Every where we look. True they didn't have the gospel.Yet the Bible says they are with out excuse.

I disagree about opportunity, other wise they'd have an excuse
MB