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That post was ridiculous actually. First, Lent practices have been observed since Apostolic times. Second, I never said it was found in the LBCF. I said that it was not in disagreement with LBCF and it isn't. There is nothing found within Lent that is out of accord with LBCF. Here is what the confession says and I will add bolding for emphasis, this is from 22.5 the same article where we find the RWP.

 

I think the bigger problem is pharisaical Baptists who assume too much.

 

I have heard of a few Catholics who have adopted salvation through faith in Jesus Christ. A vast number of Catholics are Catholic by birth and culture, not by faith. This cultural Catholicism is not real faith but rather a need to belong to a group. 81% of Mexico announces themselves as Catholic, but how many really follow Jesus.

The same was true of protestantism in the U.S. People joined churches because it was the socially acceptable thing to do - not necessarily based on a living faith. I just think this dead faith is more prominent among the Catholics than it is the Baptists.

 

I was talking about your posts, definitely not mine.

I am fully aware of paragraph 1 in article 22. I still hold my position. I'm sure there are things you do in your church that are not explicitly spelled out in Scripture to the level you are trying to take it to.

 

...and snooty....

 

The question of Lent and similar observances is dealt with in Galatians 4:9-10 and Colossians 2:16-23 as I pointed out in the previous thread.
The great question as it affects salvation is not whether one is using the right kind of bread (wafer??) or wine, but where one's faith is. Is it in Christ? In Him alone? If it is in one's baptism, the 'mass,' confession or any of the other 'sacraments,' or in Mary, praying the rosary or anything else, it is false faith. John 14:6; Acts of the Apostles 4:12.

 

Is Baptism Necessary for Salvation?
“Therefore, sacramental baptism is the only means given by our Lord that assures salvation.”
In Praise of Holy Water
“The priest makes holy water by adding exorcized salt to exorcized water.”

Catholic salvation: Baptism with holy water.

Baptist salvation: Baptism of the Holy Spirit.
Baptist witness of salvation: Baptism with wholly water.

Enough said.

 

Funny in a good way. (Sad for Catholics though.)

 

Once again you misrepresent the Catholic teaching on the issue.

 

I did not intentionally "misrepresent the Catholic teaching on the issue."

I sourced the Catholic positions on how holy water is concocted and the results of baptism.

Please take this opportunity to set me straight.

 

Let's say next January your Pastor gets up before the congregation and says: "Brothers and Sisters, I fear we have become too entangled in this world and to that end I have decided that beginning next Sunday and for the next 40 days we will fast, and pray, and give alms. On the first Sunday at the end of that 40 days we will have a solemn service recognizing the death and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ. If this goes well, I think maybe we ought to do that very same thing next year, and the year following that". And your response would be?

 

Let us first go to the place where you got your information.The first paragraph starts out with listing some of the relevant passages concerning baptism.

Jesus said, "I solemnly assure you, no one can enter into Gods kingdom without being begotten of water and Spirit" (John 3:5). At the ascension, our Lord commanded the apostles, "Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations. Baptize them in the name of the father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Teach them to carry out everything I have commanded you" (Matt. 28:19-20). In another account of the ascension, Jesus added, "The man who believes in [the good news] and accepts Baptism will be saved; the man who refuses to believe in it will be condemned" (Mark 16:16).

Do you not agree with those Scripture passages?

Now, let us go to the Church's teaching on Baptism from the Catechism.

1213 Holy Baptism is the basis of the whole Christian life, the gateway to life in the Spirit ,4 and the door which gives access to the other sacraments. Through Baptism we are freed from sin and reborn as sons of God; we become members of Christ, are incorporated into the Church and made sharers in her mission: "Baptism is the sacrament of regeneration through water in the word."5

1215 This sacrament is also called "the washing of regeneration and renewal by the Holy Spirit," for it signifies and actually brings about the birth of water and the Spirit without which no one "can enter the kingdom of God."7

1238 The baptismal water is consecrated by a prayer of epiclesis (either at this moment or at the Easter Vigil). the Church asks God that through his Son the power of the Holy Spirit may be sent upon the water, so that those who will be baptized in it may be "born of water and the Spirit."40

1239 The essential rite of the sacrament follows: Baptism properly speaking. It signifies and actually brings about death to sin and entry into the life of the Most Holy Trinity through configuration to the Paschal mystery of Christ. Baptism is performed in the most expressive way by triple immersion in the baptismal water. However, from ancient times it has also been able to be conferred by pouring the water three times over the candidate's head.

Your initial comment said that our baptism was just of Holy Water, so can you now admit that the Church teaches that the Holy Spirit and Baptism are connected?

The following I got from the same place where you got your information on Holy Water. "The holy water in churches today, I believe, is typically blessed not made, the priest saying a prayer of blessing and making a sign of the cross over it, often in the context of Mass".

Once again, a relevant bit of information that for some reason you did not want to share with the rest of us. (Funny how you highlighted the part that had the word "exorcism" in it instead). But any way, I hope that all helps.

 

And neither is a faith tradition that is known as "Reformed Baptist", yet you follow it.