Looking for info: Partial Preterism

THANK YOU!!!!!!!! That's been driving me nuts, but I couldn't figure it out.

 

We also have that funny deal about in Daniel 1290 and then 1335 days, maybe that would be the time of the Marriage Supper?

 

Therein lies a real synonymy between the Old Covenant 'arrangement' and the Old Covenant 'age'.

 

That's deep, Brother. There is obviously much more to Covenant Theology than I had imagined.

 

That Kosmos can mean the Jewish world is correct. That it always, or even usually, does, I would deny. The word has a very large range of meanings.

Oikumene means the 'inhabited earth,' being the present passive participle of oikeo, 'to dwell.' It can mean the Roman world, as in Luke 2:1, but in Matthew 24:14 it definitely cannot, and in Luke 4:5; 21:26; Romans 10:18; Hebrews 1:6; Revelation 3:10; 13:3; 16:14, there is no reason to suppose that it does.

 

I see you have been posting your nonsense on there recently. But if you keep posting non KJV quotes on there you are not likely to last long as some of us know.

Since when?

They didn't see it, they fled at Jesus' command to flee to the hills.

Daniel says nothing whatsoever about the image being set up in the temple.

The sun moon and stasr refer to the rulers of Jerusalen being overthrown, falling ftom power., The next thing that the Jews will see of the messiah is when he comes again.

Yes you keep repeating that nonesense, as well as Online Baptist and CF. It gets monotonous.

A slight misquote again from you. But first we need to know what the temple is, Paul tells us plainly.

• 1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
• 1 Corinthians 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
• 2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Paul uses the exact same term to describe the seat of the man of sin.

• 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

The pope sat in the outer court of that temple till Martin Luther excommunicated him and did not include the RCC as part of the church

• 1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar,
• 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

 

• Exodus 29:45 And I will dwell among the children of Israel, and will be their God.

Paul applies that promise to the church.

 

PHONY AS A CHEVY MUSTANG

Matthew 11:16 But to what shall I compare this generation? It is like children sitting in the marketplaces and calling to their playmates.

Matthew 12:41 The men of Nineveh will rise up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it, for they repented at the preaching of Jonah, and behold, something greater than Jonah is here.

Matthew 12:42 The queen of the South will rise up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it, for she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon, and behold, something greater than Solomon is here.

Matthew 23:36 Truly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.

Matthew 24:34 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.


Mark 8:12 And he sighed deeply in his spirit and said, “Why does this generation seek a sign? Truly, I say to you, no sign will be given to this generation.”


Luke 7:31 “To what then shall I compare the people of this generation, and what are they like?

Luke 11:29 When the crowds were increasing, he began to say, “This generation is an evil generation. It seeks for a sign, but no sign will be given to it except the sign of Jonah.

Luke 11:30 For as Jonah became a sign to the people of Nineveh, so will the Son of Man be to this generation.


Luke 11:32The men of Nineveh will rise up at the judgment with thisgeneration and condemn it, for they repented at the preaching of Jonah, and behold, something greater than Jonah is here.

Luke 11:50 so that the blood of all the prophets, shed from the foundation of the world, may be charged against this generation.

Luke 11:51
from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who perished between the altar and the sanctuary. Yes, I tell you, it will be required of this generation.

Luke 17:25 But first he must suffer many things and be rejected by this generation.


Notice anything? the Bible is pretty clear what "This Generation" Means!

 

Exactly. Understanding this is key to contexting many eschatological passages.

 

Matthew, among the four Gospel writers, was the one most directed toward the Jews. It makes perfect sense that he would use "kosmos" in their sense of the word.

For instance, Isaiah 24:21 and 40:26 help us to understand what "kosmos" meant in the Jewish context. They also help us understand "heaven and earth".

 

You are correct. The context usually determines how to interpret the word WORLD and it's not always easy. There's several different Greek words for Earth and world.

 

I would have never thought a Baptist would be a partial or full Preterist. I'm actually very surprised about that.

 

Except...There AREN'T any pret proofs!

 

Except...those that HAVEN'T yet been fulfilled.
You've been repeatedly asked to provide some proof that the eschatological events of the Olivet Discourse have already been fulfilled, and haven't shown us a thing.

 

I'm very surprised that anyone who's studied world history at all could be a pret.

 

Duu-h-h, maybe I'm just a dumb country hick, but "see the Son of man" looks pretty obvious to me.

 

Still hoping you will see the TRUTH & realize preterism is wrong. The facts you've been presented with couldn't be any plainer.

We'll just hafta see what Gorship says.

There's simply NO truth to preterism, and it WON'T grow. More & more people are actually studying history on their own, & realizing Preston, Gentry, etc. are quacks.

 

The nonsense is coming from YOU & your side, small as it is. You're still trying to reduce "inconvenient" Scriptures to symbolic status & inventing goofy meanings for them as you go. Well, it WON'T WORK! Most of see right thru that smokescreen.

 

Notice the eschatological events HAVEN'T HAPPENED YET? So much for your guess as to what certain Scriptures mean!

And the "days of vengeance" DID fall on that generation of Jews. But a coupla generations later, the Jews received a much-greater punishment, beginning in 135-136 AD when they were expelled from their land, a punishment that climaxed with the nazi holocaust.

 

That was in response to what Robycop said here...
"If they saw the great trib, then Jesus' words in Matt. 24:30 are not true. Can't be both ways!"
David, they didn't see what? The tribulation or the Lord's return?

MT. 24:30...


Daniel says nothing whatsoever about the image being set up in the temple.



The sun moon and stasr refer to the rulers of Jerusalen being overthrown, falling ftom power., The next thing that the Jews will see of the messiah is when he comes again.



Yes you keep repeating that nonesense, as well as Online Baptist and CF. It gets monotonous.



A slight misquote again from you. But first we need to know what the temple is, Paul tells us plainly.

• 1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
• 1 Corinthians 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
• 2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Paul uses the exact same term to describe the seat of the man of sin.

• 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

The pope sat in the outer court of that temple till Martin Luther excommunicated him and did not include the RCC as part of the church

• 1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar,
• 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.