Featured How can a man “lose his soul”?

Add that to the list of verses that will require contortions of text by Calvinists.

I would not go so far as to say man has free will. I would stop at limited free will.

 

Yup.

Prediction: The word "soul" as used here does not literally mean a person's eternal soul that can be lost to hellfire. The meaning of the word "soul" is more nuanced, and means something akin to "life direction" or an attitude or mental state of mind.

Despite dozens of verses quoted by Pelagians that allege a choice is possible, we Calvinists know from that one verse in Ephesians 1 that people are predestined to Heaven by God or else predestined to Hell by the person's sin nature. And acquiring that sin nature was a choice Adam made for all of us, and was, in fact, the only free will choice in history. Man, did he blow it!


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Bob, I respect you but do you really expect me to buy this? You are making a post in the C&A thread that your fellow Synergists will lap up and Monergists will disagree with. If you are looking for a Taster's Choice moment among brethren you could have fooled me.




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He can backslide... but I don’t see loosing ones soul.

 

Well now

 

I've had similar experiences reading the Bible. After having been exposed to the Cal vs. Non-Cal arguments on here, there are times that certain verses really stand out as being applicable to the arguments. I've found while there are verses that support Calvinism there are a preponderance of verses that contradict the points of TULIP. Over the years I've brought up these verses and, well, I've found the responses to refute these verses lacking. The pattern of the same responses being given over and over again has led to my canned numbered responses, as in my signature.

 

We read in James 5:20 that "whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death"

 

Though I've heard it preached that way all my life, I don't take this as an eternal salvation passage. (You're in good company if you do.)

The context is about the disciple taking up his "cross" and following Jesus (v. 24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.) The one giving giving his life over to following Christ to "lose it" will actually "find it" (v. 25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.) Verse 26 then seems to be a commentary on what has just preceded about the life, rather than the eternal spirit's salvation -- For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? Verse 27 seems to reinforce this view, mentioning "reward" and "works" which seem to also lead away from the subject of eternal salvation -- For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

 

It's a hypothetical question, right? We're not told that a particular person did what was entailed.

It looks to me like a comparison, showing that the entirety of this transient world is not equal in worth to that which is eternal, ie. your soul.

 

In your mind and in the mind of anyone who reads that text in context and guided by the HG.

 

the word is psyche spirit, not the pnuema, soul

So a man can gain the world and lose himself or the opportunity to be saved. One is already condemned and going to hell

 

Corresponding passage from Luke:

24 For whosoever would save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.
25 For what is a man profited, if he gain the whole world, and lose or forfeit his own self? Lu 0

 

So we get a reward? A cookie perhaps Like a dog or a commission like a salesman?

 

When you stand before Christ, tell Him that the rewards He gives are dog treats.

 

That’s my point... he doesn’t give rewards he gives life.

 

You sure about that? Judgment seat of Christ is a works judgment.

 

Certainly it does imply freewill..
MB.

 

According to Strong's Concordance psyche/psuche is translated "soul" 58 times and "life" 40 times in the King James Version (I didn't check other versions). It is the word that is translated "life" in verse 25. Pneuma is usually translated "spirit."