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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by tyndale1946, Aug 5, 2019.

  1. Earth Wind and Fire

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    You have not even spoken to a Calvinist yet yet you throw rocks... and a Roman Catholic to boot.
     
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    I didn't throw the rock. God ordained it.
     
  3. MB

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    You find the truth bitter?. Why am I surprised. Here is a Calvinist that when confronted by his own doctrine the very things He and other Calvinist have said many times think's it's bitterness to be so discussed ed by it.
    I'm not bitter I'm just telling the truth.Speaking the truth up sets you i see.

    MB
     
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    Speaking the truth upsets you
    MB
     
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    Who’s truth is that....yours of course
     
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    Thru the pope?
     
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    That my friend is what Calvinist place on the board. My truth is straight from God's word. I don't claim something is there that clearly isn't. Talk about being bitter I think you should look at your self.
    MB
     
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    Again you haven’t even spoken to any Calvinists yet. Go troll them... do you even know who they are?
     
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    Like I said talk about being bitter
    MB
     
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    Oh!?! You like the Pope now?:D

    I’m sorry but you don’t even understand Sovereign Grace Baptists but you defend RCC which you certainly ... ahhh, forget it :Unsure
     
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    The Bible itself says that God is selective and that no one understands the Scriptures without having their "ears" opened to it:

    1) John 8:43-47.
    2) John 5:25
    3) 1 Corinthians 2:14-16
    4) Luke 24:45
    5) 1 Corinthians 1:18-31

    "For the froward is abomination to the LORD: but his secret is with the righteous." ( Proverbs 3:32 )

    " He that hath ears to hear, let him hear." ( Matthew 11:15 ).

    " At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
    26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.
    27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and [he] to whomsoever the Son will reveal [him]." ( Matthew 11:25-27 )


    No less than 11 times, the Lord Jesus differentiates between people who can and cannot "hear" His words, by stating, "He who has ears to hear, let him hear".
    Not everyone has the ability or the privilege to hearken unto God, spiritually.

    Only the saved can "hear" His words... only Christ's sheep will "hear" His voice ( John 10:27 ).

    You may call it "gnostic".
    I call it "God choosing to have mercy and compassion on some, and not others." ( Romans 9:14-18, Exodus 33:19 ).
     
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    I don't follow John Calvin.
    I follow the Man who said this:

    "... Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father." ( John 6:65 ).

    Except for their outward conduct.

    The Lord does not tell believers to act that way.
     
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    Oh, I understand perfectly about you free willers. It's MY faith, it's MY choice, it's MY will, not God's.

    Me, me, me, me, me, me,...…..

    It is of MB that MB is in Christ Jesus. 1 Corinthians 1:30
     
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    Not so it is both the will of God and mans. It's called a relationship maybe you don't have a relationship with Christ. Would you like one?
    MB
     
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    I do not defend RCC You have me mixed up with your self. For got it already.
    MB
     
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    It is of MB that MB is in Christ Jesus. 1 Corinthians 1:30

    Glory MB, glory.

    6 For behold your calling, brethren, that not many wise after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
    27 but God chose the foolish things of the world, that he might put to shame them that are wise; and God chose the weak things of the world, that he might put to shame the things that are strong;

    28 and the base things of the world, and the things that are despised, did God choose, yea and the things that are not, that he might bring to nought the things that are:
    29 that no flesh should glory before God.
    30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who was made unto us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption: 1 Cor 1

    But MB is different, he did the choosing.

    Glory MB, glory.
     
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    Some times the truth hurts then you lash out with your venom. Aren't you proud of your self?
     
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    It is of MB that MB is in Christ Jesus. 1 Corinthians 1:30

    26 For behold your calling, brethren, that not many wise after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
    27 but God chose the foolish things of the world, that he might put to shame them that are wise; and God chose the weak things of the world, that he might put to shame the things that are strong;

    28 and the base things of the world, and the things that are despised, did God choose, yea and the things that are not, that he might bring to nought the things that are:
    29 that no flesh should glory before God.
    30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who was made unto us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption: 1 Cor 1

    But MB is different, he did the choosing.

    Glory MB, glory.
     
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    MB is sovereign... praise MB
     
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    BTW... absolute Predestination ... can you explain it to me?
     
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