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YOU'RE STILL DODGING!

Still NO SCRIPRURE saying Jesus abolished circumcision !

 

Still, no specific Scripture saying Jesus abolished circumcision!

Now, if one actually attempts to keep the law for salvation, one must never have broken the slightest point of it. But they still come up short, as they'll have disobeyed the command to believe in & trust in JESUS for salvation.

Paul still followed many Jewish practices, but he never preached against Jews who were Christians & had ceased following any Jewish practices. He wrote that it was a matter of individual conscience, & I'm sure the Holy Spirit told him to write thusly.

For example, Paul kept Sabbaths & special events such as the Feast of tabernacles & passover. (The main Jewish thing Paul ceased doing was making sacrifices.) And, where he spoke against circumcision, he was writing to the GALATIANS. (gentiles) He always told gentiles no not try to become Jews; Jesus saved Jew & gentile alike.

So, Jesus doidn't ABOLISH circumcision, especially among the Jews; He made it no longer necessary for salvation, especially among gentiles.

(The practice of "female circumcision" as practiced by some Moslem sects, is entirely-evil & wrong ! !)

 

You should study Scripture better. Paul wrote that if one's conscience told him to eat or not eat certain foods, one should follow it. Same for keeping Sabbaths or not, keeping feast days or not, & I'm sure circumcision was included. And again, Paul was writing to GENTILES, not Jews. it's evident from Scripture & history that most Christian Jews kept most Jewish customs. And most Christian Jews today still do the same. AGAIN, JESUS NEVER ABOLISHED NOR FORBADE CIRCUMCISION !

 

Still, no Scripture saying jesus abolished circumcision !

Learn a little history. In those days, there were phony Jews who were seeking favor from the Roman govt. Part of that was some of them infiltrating into Christian churches. This, of course, displeased God, who spoke against them. That had nothing to do with genuine Jews.

Again, you really need for the HOLY SPIRIT to straighten out your theology!

 

The term shortly could be compared to eternity instead of our own time. Say these things begin at the end of this year. Which would be 2019 years since Christ went to the Father.. 2019 years isn't even a speck of time when compared to infinity. To us it's a very long time. Then there is another possibility. That is that John was wrong or Christ lied. One thing for sure Christ did not come in 70 ad. The anti Christ did not enter the temple and show him self as God. Nor did he make fire come down from heaven. Not only this but there was no temple for the anti Christ to do such a thing.. The Romans took care of that because they destroyed it.There has been no mark of the beast there has been no one world government. No locust with the face of a man.No 4 horses of the apocalypse.
MB

 

Let's look at yer pet verse in MODERN English:

Gal. 5:2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing. 3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.

Paul is telling the galatian gentiles(and all others) they do NOT need to be circumcised if they weren't already before they were saved. Someone, likely an unsaved Jew, was likely telling them they needed to be, as well as to keep other points of "the law".

Remember, Paul had been circumcised, & so had every other Jewish male who was later saved. And Paul still followed some Jewish traditions. He DID advise gentile Christians not to drink blood (and also to avoid things strangled, food they knew had been offered to idols, & from fornication, as well. The only actual sin among them, was, of course, fornication.)

And while the Jewish Christians no longer offered sacrifices, they DID bring monetary offerings to the temple, & practiced many of their old traditions.

AND AGAIN, JESUS DID NOT ABOLISH CIRCUMCISION !

 

Not true.

There were Jews in tye holy land for at leats 100 years before that. They were buying up property from the Arabs legally.

 

The events did begin to be fulfilled soon after the book was written and continue to be fulfilled today.

 

I agree.
For example, the Temple was destroyed, just like He said it would be.

But I see no thousand year reign from David's throne at Jerusalem as having happened yet.
No "beast" ( Anti-Christ ) who has a false prophet and makes people take his mark, and no 3.5 year time of plagues, all green grass being burned up, trees destroyed, every living thing in the sea killed, people working a day for a day's food, the Third Temple being built in Jerusalem ( very close now...all they need is the land on the Temple Mount ), two thirds of the world's population killed off, etc.

When these come to pass....look up.

 

Some were there since 70 AD but Israel became a country in 1948.

 

1 Corinthians 7:18-19 KJVS
[18] Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised. [19] Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.

 

Preterists try to reduce the Scriptures predicting those things to "figurative/symbolic" status to keep their false doctrine alive, since those events haven't happened yet, but they're wrong. The destruction of jerusalem & the temple shows those prophesied events are LITERAL; they simply haven't happened yet.

A main trait of quasi/pseudo/Christian cults is to "symbolize" Scripture to match their agendas.

 

The land belonged to the Jews anyway, as GOD had given it to them. However, they obeyed the laws of man by legally buying much of it. And, they also made "offers they couldn't refuse" to some non-Jewish landowners, & later took some of it by force.