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Featured Any theology textbook against predestination, limited atonement, election?

Discussion in 'Fundamental Baptist Forum' started by Giovanni Blancas, Jan 12, 2019.

  1. Reformed

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    I do not know if you are going to find an "anti" textbook. You will be better served finding textbooks that are "pro" your position. Compare the two and come to your own conclusion.

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    You jest, but writing a paper adversus Altizer was one of the more was one of the more...growth-inducing assignments I had.

    Something about the best defense is a good offense, know your enemy.
     
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    So if I'm torn between an F150 and a C1500, I shouldn't limit my research to the Ford dealership.
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    Buy both and compare!

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    Is interesting though that the Calvinist has far more and superior sources to use to bolster their arguments, as those against that position have relatively little in response!
     
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    Well, it is the only infallible and inspired source for doctrines and theology, but not the only one!
     
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    Writing your own ticket with God By Kenneth Hagin!
     
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    No you just need to read the scriptures.
     
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    Oh what extra biblical sorces are there?
     
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    John 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

    Ephesians 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
     
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    Both these verses reinforce and support my view. So I have no idea of what your point might be. Are you agreeing? I expect not.

    Who are "the sheep" who have gone astray? Are those called out, part of mankind? Of course.
     
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    None, but God has given to His people gifted authors to help us understand the scriptures better, as I listed before!
     
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    I see that this thread was from way back in January, but I'll suggest a book anyway: Lectures in Systematic Theology, by Henry Thiessen (https://www.amazon.com/Lectures-Sys...=Henry+Thiessen&qid=1575314208&s=books&sr=1-1).

    Also, my son's Ph.D. dissertation has been published as: Foreknowledge and Social Identity in 1 Peter, by Paul Himes (https://www.amazon.com/Foreknowledg...1_5?keywords=paul+himes&qid=1575314043&sr=8-5). In it he proves conclusively that foreknowledge does not mean predestination.
     
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    Would be interesting to read that book of your son, as Lexicons seems to support the notion that it does!
     
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    books by Roger Olsen and Norman Geisler on theology...
     
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    Lexicons feed off each other. In other words, when someone writes a new lexicon, he or she will look at the previous ones and revise from them.

    What my son did was look at every single usage of proginosko in ancient Greek literature, both Biblical and extra-biblical. This had never been done before. I'm prejudiced, of course, but I think he proved his point, and of course he passed the Ph.D. committee. So they agreed as to the validity of his research.
     
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    Did he tie bnoth of those terms in Election then?
     
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    I don't believe so. His larger aim was defining the paroikoi, the "strangers" (1 Peter 2:11).
     
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    Interesting, as Election would seem to be the overarching platform in defining predestination and foreknowledge of God!
     
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