Featured The rise of Calvinism?

Guess a lot of this depends on wither one is reformed or just Calvinist!

 

Many early Baptists were though here in the States!

 

What does that mean?

 

Calvinist Baptists much more into accepting NCT and new Calvinism then Reformed Baptists are!

 

many of the earliest Baptists here were Calvinistic in theology....

 

I moved away from it toward Classical Arminianism. I had problems with Calvinists, and those problems led me to reexamine the doctrine. The main problem I saw was people using a Calvinistic view of "pragmatism" as an excuse to justify their laziness and ineffectiveness. On on the other hand, I saw Calvinists who I admired and who had successful ministries, teaching Calvinism but acting very Arminian in the way they did ministry.

 

All would be equally saved by the Grace of God, but Calvinists tend to be more into just sotierology salvation outlined in 5 points of Grace, while Reformed buy into all of Covenant theology.

 

The term "Reformed" is often associated with Reformed Presbyterians. Baptists did not take on the moniker until the 1960s when the Reformed Baptist movement started at Grace Baptist Church in Carlisle, Pennsylvania. Prior to that, the term was rarely used. Particular Baptist was the forerunner of the American Reformed Baptist movement. The term "Reformed" among Baptists was adopted to recognize both the covenantal and confessional nature of English Particular Baptists. In this sense, American Particular Baptists share many similarities to their Reformed Presbyterian brethren. There are many Presbyterians who bristle at Baptists using the Reformed title. Baptists practice believers-only baptism. Presbyterians believe that paedo (infant) baptism is part and parcel with Reformed theology, which disqualifies Baptists from being Reformed. It is interesting that the 17th century Particular Baptists did not refer to themselves as Reformed.

 

I think it would be appropriate to do so, although Reformed Baptists often refer to themselves as Calvinists when discussing the doctrines of grace. Also, there still remains substantial differences with Reformed Presbyterian on matters of baptism, ecclesiology, and the nature/scope of the New Covenant. Over the past few years, there has been an attempt by confessional Baptists to rediscover their Particular Baptist roots. It is called Baptist Federalism. You can learn about it by visiting 1689federalism.com. Baptist Federalism is a distinctive Baptist covenant theology that is completely unlike New Covenant Theology. Baptist Federalism's genesis goes back to the early 16th century.

 

Thankfully a post that actually understands some of the history in recent times.
There is no great movement to reform Calvinism. It is doing just fine.
These ideas more often than not are from those who think they see something everyone else has missed.
Without fail each of these fall by the wayside,as it is more of a fleshly prideful thing.
JonC commented;

I disagree in that Calvinism, correctly preached, taught, believed, and lived deals with every area of life.
There is nothing new under the sun. The word of God is totally sufficient to speak to any need or situation that arises.

The SBC was virtually completely Calvinivstic in it's origins.
Some today attempt to re-write that history to no avail.
This new traditionalist movement is such a misguided attempt as I see it. Some SBC historians have documented these truths.

 

Dockery: Calvinism has roots in SBC history


Dockery located the beginning of Baptist life with the rise of English
Separatism in England. As Baptist life developed in England in the 1600s, Baptists divided between "General Baptists," with individuals like John Smyth as their leader, and "Particular Baptists." The Particular Baptists represented a more Calvinistic understanding of salvation, while General Baptists held to, as the name suggests, a more "general" understanding
of the atonement.

At the founding of the Southern Baptist Convention in May 1845, it would have been difficult to find leaders who were not Calvinistic in their theology, Dockery said. He distinguished between a Calvinistic denominational leadership of the Southern Baptist Convention and its less Calvinist laity. At that time, however, the question over Calvinism was not plaguing the newly formed denomination. Dockery drew attention to the Calvinistic leanings of the Abstract of Principles, a document written by James P. Boyce that would serve as a doctrinal weathervane for Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, which was founded in 1859 in Greenville, S.C., before it moved to Louisville, Ky. Boyce was president of Southern Seminary from 1859 to 1888.
the atonement

As Southern Baptists became more programmatic in the mid-20th century, Dockery said, "the SBC re-envisioned itself, largely ignoring the 19th Century roots."

It was during this time that Southern Baptist theologians like Herschel Hobbs began moving Southern Baptist theology "toward a modified understanding of predestination and foreknowledge. He [Hobbs] believed that God affirmed every free human choice in such a way that the choices are not predetermined." The "modified Arminianism" of Hobbs and famed pastor Adrian Rogers, Dockery said, stands in stark contrast to the 19th century Calvinism of Boyce, Broadus and Manly.