1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Featured 6 Years Left Until the Second Coming of Yeshuah

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by gaviria.christian, Jan 10, 2020.

  1. gaviria.christian

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2019
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    1
    Faith:
    Seeking Christ
    You said it, not I. But I will take it, even if it was just sarcasm. :Thumbsup
     
  2. George Antonios

    George Antonios Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2019
    Messages:
    2,895
    Likes Received:
    298
    Faith:
    Baptist
    @gaviria.christian 2026 has been looked to by many Christians for over a decade bud. The 4th day ended at the crucifixion. So 2 millennial days from the crucifixion of Christ in 33 A.D. lands you in 2033 A.D. as the end of the 6th day. Subtract 7 years of tribulation and you got 2026 as the rapture of the church. It's that easy. No need for all the complicated stuff you boasted in.
    Of course, no one that I know (well, except you I guess) is definite on the date, and they're all aware that Gregory messed with our calendar so we don't even know how accurate it is.
    The church is a Gentile body and its rapture was a mystery so we would not be surprised if God does honour a Gentile calendar for a Gentile body especially since Gentile Enoch was raptured before the judgment at 365 years of age, not the Jewish 360.
    Anyway, no one claims to know, we're just gladly looking for the Son of God from heaven and he could come today.

    Now, given that you have such a marvelous revelation, and that you have been met with nothing but disbelief by this board, I'm sure you'll now focus your efforts on leading the lost to saving knowledge of Jesus Christ rather than waste your time in too many replies on this thread, right?
     
    • Like Like x 1
  3. gaviria.christian

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2019
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    1
    Faith:
    Seeking Christ
    I go out and feed the poor daily, which is what the Messiah wants from all of us, good works. My ministry is based in Medellin, Colombia. And I call sinners to repentance all over the internet to an audience of thousands of people throughout different websites, and also my own website. What are you doing for the kingdom of God?
     
  4. George Antonios

    George Antonios Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2019
    Messages:
    2,895
    Likes Received:
    298
    Faith:
    Baptist
    One last time:
     
  5. Reformed1689

    Reformed1689 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2019
    Messages:
    9,905
    Likes Received:
    1,820
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Really? Show me where it says one day equals 1,000 years. You will not find it.
     
  6. Scarlett O.

    Scarlett O. Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    May 22, 2002
    Messages:
    11,538
    Likes Received:
    1,008
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Dear OP,

    Read the context of 2 Peter 3 and Psalm 90. The whole chapters.

    You are proof texting. You have created a mathematical algorithm from the Bible for the day that Christ returns where there is none.

    2 Peter 3 is not about the timing of Christ's return but about the ASSURANCE of it and the reason why it seems to be delayed [when it has not].. Peter says people were doubting and complaining that he had not returned and were questioning it all.
    • So he says that God's timing is not our timing. He is HEAVILY implying that we cannot think that we KNOW the when of Christ's return. Just like the people complaining thought they knew and were wrong and began to doubt based on their own arrogance and ignorance. Just like Isaiah says that God's thoughts are not our thoughts, Peter is comparing us to God and we end up lacking. He quotes Psalm 90:4 in that declaration.

    • Psalm 90:4 is also NOT talking about a formulaic or numeric proof of Christ's return. Moses is taking here of the eternalness of God - don't take my word for it. Read the entirety of Psalm 90! Moses also talks about numbers again in the same psalm. He says, "Teach us to number our days." This isn't for the sake of counting, but for the sake of comparing our nothingness to God's eternal being.

    • Taking your mathematical data and transplanting into the context of God creating the world in 7 days and the resting day and drawing the conclusion that Christ's return is 6 years away is mish-mashing 1 right and 1 wrong to make a statement that God said could not be made.

    I say this with kindness. You are wrong and your arrogance is showing. Consider that there are others here with a lot of Biblical knowledge. Just as you claim to be.
     
    #26 Scarlett O., Jan 10, 2020
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2020
  7. George Antonios

    George Antonios Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2019
    Messages:
    2,895
    Likes Received:
    298
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I recall a certain brother decrying the fact that he was being asked such a precise request regarding a verse that said that a lost man is predestinated unto salvation, a certain brother who was saying that it was basically impractical to ask for such a limited request ;)
     
  8. Reformed1689

    Reformed1689 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2019
    Messages:
    9,905
    Likes Received:
    1,820
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Take it up in the other thread George you are off topic.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  9. Adonia

    Adonia Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2016
    Messages:
    5,020
    Likes Received:
    941
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    Oh sure. Brother Camping (Harold Camping) the off the wall preacher first predicted Judgement Day was going to happen Sept. 6 1994 and when that didn't come to fruition he revised his Judgement Day predictions several more times, with none of them happening either. So I will take a chance here and place you in the same category of off the wall end time predictors.

    Since you are so sure about this however, please liquidate any properties you might have, cash in all your investments and send the money to me. The wife and I sure could use a good vacation before that goes down.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  10. robycop3

    robycop3 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2000
    Messages:
    14,396
    Likes Received:
    672
    Faith:
    Baptist
    KOWABUNGA, DUDES & DUDETTES !

    We now have the skinny from one who knows when the billions-of-years earth was first made.

    Almost wish I had a dollar for every one of these predictions-I'd be long-retired !

    Not even Jesus Himself knew the date of His own return, as He plainly said. (He may know it now, but WE don't !

    We can know the general time, as He said, in Matt. 24:29-30, that He'd return immediately after the great trib ended.(I don't believe any current Christians will be around for that event.)

    But, for each of us, His return, and the final decision for the "fate" of each of us, is no further than THE NEXT HEARTBEAT! (At age 71, I am keenly aware of that !)

    So we must always watch & be ready, acting as if we will be face-to-face with Him this very day!
     
  11. gaviria.christian

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2019
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    1
    Faith:
    Seeking Christ
    I already left the financial system in preparation for the second coming. Whether you agree or disagree that the second coming is approaching, there are two things that still remain true. That we are approaching the year 6000 from creation, which is confirmed by genealogical and timeline records in the scriptures, which I have published in a comprehensive excel spreadsheet, and that we are approaching 2,000 years since the anointing of Yeshuah. Just those two details alone should frighten anyone that has any logical sense inside him.
     
  12. gaviria.christian

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2019
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    1
    Faith:
    Seeking Christ
    The Messiah is indeed predestined to come in the year 6000. It is affirmed in the Torah by God creating in 6 days and resting the 7th day, it is affirmed in ancient texts, and it is widely believed by the Jews. Only ignorant people reject this clear and obvious knowledge, because they don't want to believe that God has established a 7,000 year plan for this earth. They are dumb.
     
  13. gaviria.christian

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2019
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    1
    Faith:
    Seeking Christ
    I already did. Believe.
     
  14. robycop3

    robycop3 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2000
    Messages:
    14,396
    Likes Received:
    672
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Now, WHY was the year calculated as 360 days long, & each month as exactly 30 days? Because THAT WAS THEIR ACTUAL LENGTHS !

    The ancients calculated the length of the year by observing the points of sunrises & sunsets, & the shadows they cast. this was vital to those people, who all depended on agriculture. Had they been off by 5 1?4 days, their seasons would be off almost a whole month in only 5 years !

    Remember, the 360 day year isn't just "Jewish" or "Biblical"; it was WORLDWIDE.

    The year & month was changed during the time of Hezekiah, 700s BC, by a series of cosmological events, the most-noticeable being the sun's retreat at Isaiah's prayer on Hez's behalf.(2 Kings 20:11) (As these events came 15 years apart, some speculate they mighta been caused by near-collisions with the planet Mars.) But at any rate, they happened.

    This also caused disruption with the length of the month. that's why, for awhile, the Romans, among others, only had 10 months in a year, still shown in our common names for the last 4 months of the year. It took some time for men to re-calculate the length of the year & month again.

    And it's quite-evident the earth is much-older than C. 6K years. Geological evidence alone makes this very plain. I believe God made the CURRENT ARRANGEMENT of earth's surface 6K years ago, but the planet itself is much-older.
     
  15. gaviria.christian

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2019
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    1
    Faith:
    Seeking Christ
    I am glad that someone did his homework and has come to know and understand the original 360 day calendar and why it changed in the days of Hezekiah. I explain all of this in my bible study and how a change in solar years affects the sidereal orbit of the moon. Read and learn. Why the Calendar of the Torah was 360 Days, New Moons, and the True Fulfillment of Torah Appointed Times | Wisdom of God

    [​IMG]
     
  16. Reformed1689

    Reformed1689 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2019
    Messages:
    9,905
    Likes Received:
    1,820
    Faith:
    Baptist
    No you didn't. You showed a verse that said exactly what I SAID it was. Like/As not IS
     
  17. gaviria.christian

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2019
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    1
    Faith:
    Seeking Christ
    I did, it's just that you refuse to believe and understand, which is why you use dumb logic to try to discredit the truth. Anyone who reads from the original Hebrew text knows that the original text does not have "like", "as", or even "is" in these verses. These are English words which are used in translation for us to try to understand the text in our own language. So what are you actually arguing against? The use of one translated word "like" over another translated word "is" to negate a higher truth that is affirmed by the Torah itself, the scriptures themselves, other ancient texts, and even the Jews themselves believe this. Dumb. And stubborn.
     
  18. Reformed1689

    Reformed1689 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2019
    Messages:
    9,905
    Likes Received:
    1,820
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Are you a Hebrew scholar?
     
  19. robycop3

    robycop3 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2000
    Messages:
    14,396
    Likes Received:
    672
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Been studying that stuff, likely since before you were born, along with several "ologies" such as paleontology, archaeology, some geology, etc.

    There's plenty of evidence for a great age of the earth. Know why Noah didn't take any dinosaurs on the ark? BECAUSE THEY WERE ALREADY LONG-EXTINCT. God had Noah take at least one pair of every land animal, bird, & insect on earth at that time aboard the ark, placed them all in a state of estivation, & took each one where it belonged when they left the ark.

    There's clear evidence that great disasters hit earth before man was here, such as the asteroid hit near Yucutan Peninsula that killed most life on earth at the time.

    And many now-extinct creatures were better-equipped to survive than their modern counterparts. anexample is the woolly mammoth, which could live in a variety of climates, unlike modern elephants. Also, the leading cause of death among wild elephants is that their teeth wear out so theu can't adequately chew their food enough to digest it. The mammoth's teeth were much-harder & didn't wear out. Yet, mammoths are extinct, while elephants, of course, are not.

    And mammoths were gone long before God made men, much-longer than 6K years.

    When studying Scripture, you must also study history. Remember, Scripture shapes history, so history is a large key to PROPERLY interpret Scripture.
     
  20. gaviria.christian

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2019
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    1
    Faith:
    Seeking Christ
    How comical. Now you've moved on from trying to discredit the truth by using a dumb argument regarding usage of 1 translated word over another translated verse to now trying to use another dumb argument if I am Hebrew scholar or not, as if the truth can only be known by scholars. It never ceases to amaze me how people who don't want to believe something simply because they don't want to believe it always try finding stupid reasons to throw it out, all to their own demise.
     
Loading...