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Thanks for providing the references. I will investigate all of them!

 

A 7 step process? Now where have I heard of the number 7 when it comes to a doctrine before? That's right, I remember - there is a doctrine that has 7 sacraments. This sure looks like someone stole the idea from orthodox Christian teachings.

 

That sounds like Process Theology

 

Where does Scripture use the term, "get saved"?
Do you mean, do something to gain God's favor?

Huh?

Like, in a temple or something?

There are no altars in God's churches.
That was all done away with when the vail of the temple was rent in two.

I'm also not aware of any of the churches in the book of Acts or the epistles ever having one.

Question:

Was the word of God present ( or had been preached ) in all of this talking?

 

What do you mean, "ready to receive Christ"?

One either receives Christ as a result of the Holy Spirit's work on the heart ( making eternal life a gift ), or one does not.
One is either given the privilege to believe on Him and to suffer for His sake ( Philippians 1:29 ), or one is not.

"Receiving Christ" does not make one born again.
Being born again by the Spirit of Almighty God results in a person receiving Christ instead of automatically rejecting Him, like we all do.

Where in Scripture did Peter, Paul or the Lord Jesus ever describe something like a "sinner's prayer" ( which, by the way, I grew up being taught this sort of thing in "Traditionalist" Baptist churches ) needing to be recited in order to become saved?

I'm not aware that salvation is a process that begins with a choice and ends with becoming saved.
While I was taught this in Baptist churches growing up, I do not see Scripture teaching this...

But I do know of a few verses that can be used, by themselves, to demonstrate this.

So, I'm a bit confused...
Where did you get this idea from?

Finally and respectfully,
I remember commenting on this exact paragraph before, some months ago.

If I may ask, what has led you to post it again?

 

In Acts, the tongue speakers understood what they were saying but needed to translate so others could understand. (Paul gives the details in 1 Cor.) But today's "tongue speakers" do not know what they are saying. They are merely getting a buzz just as voodoo practitioners do when they "speak in tongues".

 

It's not biblical tongues. But identical to the same tongues voodoo uses. https://www.dana.org/article/speaking-in-tongues-glossolalia-and-stress-reduction/

 

You have zero scripture to endorse Pentecostalism. Only eisegesis of the scriptures. I prove everything I say condemning Pentecostalism using scripture. Why not go out and heal some Covid-19 cases. Prove what you believe is true.

 

Yes indeed.

 

For a Pentecostal or Charismatic who believes that they have the gift of tongues just as in Acts, like the Azusa St. folk did, the question is: who got saved? At Pentecost, 3000 people got saved through the tongues/languages ministry. In the vast majority of cases with modern tongues speakers, no one gets saved. They just feel good. That's not Bible Christianity.

Now, rockytopva, our thread founder, appears to be strictly following the Azusa St. principles. Let me ask you directly, rockytopva, do you believe that your tongues are actual languages that can be used to win people to Christ? That is what the Azusa St. folk believed. Buy the book I referenced before, Azusa Stree and Beyond, ed. by L. Grant McClung, Jr. It is a book of essays about the Azusa St. incident (I hesitate to call it a genuine revival) written by Pentecostal/Charismatic scholars, not by opponents of the movement. If you seek truth, it will open your eyes.

Another great book for the true seeker is I Once Spoke in Tongues, by a former Pentecostal Wayne A. Robinson. Here are some quotes from that book.

"As Dave Wilkerson, the well-known minister to addicts, has reported, tongues takes the place of narcotics for many former addicts. For many charismatic Christians, tongues is a spiritual high" (p. 98).

"One of the ironies which blemish the Christian religion is that where the most religious zeal is displayed, the mission of Jesus is often of least concern" (p. 99). So if the Great Commission is not being fulfilled, tongues are useless.

"Worn as a badge of identification, tongues results in walls of division, mistrust, and resentment. Much of the strong negative feeling that many church people hold against tongues speaking can be traced to this misuse" (p. 123). I can testify to this. Charismatics attacked my soul-winning ministry in Japan three times. The un-Christian zeal of those Japanese tongues speakers who never won a soul to Christ completely repelled me.

 

Rock concerts generate the same buzz for the carnal minded.

 

Who got saved in this service? Anyone?