Church closings

[Salty]

From the Syracuse, Post-Standard:

Five Roman Catholic churches in or near Oswego, NY are merging on 31 May, 2020.

of parishioners is dwindling, and priests are harder and harder to find, diocese officials"


...............population................. RC church members...............%

1910........23,368..................................12,772..................54.65

2019........17,337.......................................971....................5.60

A independent Baptist recently became a SBC church
There are two other IFB churches in Oswego.

 

[Salty]

The Field of Oswego is white unto harvest

 

[xlsdraw]

Where are you in NY? We have a couple of pastors from our church that have accepted the call to pastor churches in NY.

 

[Salty]

Where are you in NY? We have a couple of pastors from our church that have accepted the call to pastor churches in NY.

I am in Central New York - Half-way between Syracuse and Oneida.

what churches are those pastors going to ?

 

[xlsdraw]

Colin Morton is at Victory Bible Baptist Church in Porter Corners. Got up there last fall.

Larry Markowski is at FBC of Lebanon Springs. Just got there in April.

 

[Salty]

Colin Morton is at Victory Bible Baptist Church in Porter Corners. Got up there last fall.East o
About 3 hours East of us

Larry Markowski is at FBC of Lebanon Springs. Just got there in April.

and Lebanon Springs - is also about 3 hours east of us.

If they ever get to Syracuse, tell them to look me up.

and be sure to tell them to bring their snow shovels!

 

[xlsdraw]

and Lebanon Springs - is also about 3 hours east of us.

If they ever get to Syracuse, tell them to look me up.

and be sure to tell them to bring their snow shovels!

I delivered to McLane Foods in Baldwinsville in early March. Twas a little wintery.

 

[Salty]

I delivered to McLane Foods in Baldwinsville in early March. Twas a little wintery.

I used to live in B'ville.

And McClains is in Raddision -
The housing areas are very nice - but I believe it is a HOA

Next time you come - let me know.

 

[Hobie]

From the Syracuse, Post-Standard:

Five Roman Catholic churches in or near Oswego, NY are merging on 31 May, 2020.

of parishioners is dwindling, and priests are harder and harder to find, diocese officials"


...............population................. RC church members...............%

1910........23,368..................................12,772..................54.65

2019........17,337.......................................971....................5.60

A independent Baptist recently became a SBC church
There are two other IFB churches in Oswego.

SBC is Southern Baptist, but what is IFB?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

SBC is Southern Baptist, but what is IFB?

Independent Fundamentalist Baptist

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

and Lebanon Springs - is also about 3 hours east of us.

If they ever get to Syracuse, tell them to look me up.

and be sure to tell them to bring their snow shovels!

That last line is an understatement.

 

[Salty]

SBC is Southern Baptist, but what is IFB?

Independent Fundamental Baptists

But in reality all Baptist churches are independent
and many SBC churches are fundamental.

 

[Salty]

That last line is an understatement.

I have 5 snow shovels, a snow blower and a snow rake!

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I have 5 snow shovels, a snow blower and a snow rake!

You’d better in that snow belt. I used to have that as a sales territory and spent a lot of time up there... Watertown,Onienta, peakskill, Albany, Rochester, Binghamton, Syracuse, Buffalo, Corning etc. Surprisingly it was Syracuse that had the most snow.... one year it was over 200 inches of precipitation... mostly snow.

 

[Hobie]

Independent Fundamental Baptists

But in reality all Baptist churches are independent
and many SBC churches are fundamental.

Many of my Baptist friends and acquaintances are Southern Baptist, is there any difference with the Independent Baptist, or is it just governance.

 

[Salty]

You’d better in that snow belt. I used to have that as a sales territory and spent a lot of time up there... Watertown,Onienta, peakskill, Albany, Rochester, Binghamton, Syracuse, Buffalo, Corning etc. Surprisingly it was Syracuse that had the most snow.... one year it was over 200 inches of precipitation... mostly snow.

Not quite - the most we have had is 192.1 inches - info from the Golden Snowball award
Now if you go up to Tug Hill area regularly gets over 200 inches a year


and then you come to Syracuse, and never stopped off to see me!!!

 

[Salty]

Many of my Baptist friends and acquaintances are Southern Baptist, is there any difference with the Independent Baptist, or is it just governance.

The big difference is the way SBC supports missionaries. The SBC has two mission boards 1) Home 2) Foreign. When a missionary is accepted by one of the two boards - basically he is put on salary (not sure exact legal status) and is on his way to the field.

IFB has one of two ways - 1) the missionarys home church will support all or most of a church member to go to the field. 2) Most though - will select a mission board of which there are dozens and dozens of. After a mission board is chosen - then the missionary will start contacting churches to seek support until they have enough to go to the field. . I don't have exact states- but for example - He writes 100 letters - gets 10 invitations - and out of those 10 churches - 1 will support him anywhere from 25 # or so up up to 2-3 hundred dollars monthly. Now this is just a general overview - I would encourage any missionary to give his specific experience.
Some missionary appointees may be on deputation anywhere from 1 -3 years collect support.

 

[Walter]

From the Syracuse, Post-Standard:

Five Roman Catholic churches in or near Oswego, NY are merging on 31 May, 2020.

of parishioners is dwindling, and priests are harder and harder to find, diocese officials"


...............population................. RC church members...............%

1910........23,368..................................12,772..................54.65

2019........17,337.......................................971....................5.60

A independent Baptist recently became a SBC church
There are two other IFB churches in Oswego.

Many, many more Catholic Churches opening worldwide than closing. the Catholic church has the fastest growing Church in the world. Baptist churches are closing left and right where I live. American Baptist churches that hold 500 or more people have membership of about 15 to 20. mostly gray haired women

 

[Hobie]

The big difference is the way SBC supports missionaries. The SBC has two mission boards 1) Home 2) Foreign. When a missionary is accepted by one of the two boards - basically he is put on salary (not sure exact legal status) and is on his way to the field.

IFB has one of two ways - 1) the missionarys home church will support all or most of a church member to go to the field. 2) Most though - will select a mission board of which there are dozens and dozens of. After a mission board is chosen - then the missionary will start contacting churches to seek support until they have enough to go to the field. . I don't have exact states- but for example - He writes 100 letters - gets 10 invitations - and out of those 10 churches - 1 will support him anywhere from 25 # or so up up to 2-3 hundred dollars monthly. Now this is just a general overview - I would encourage any missionary to give his specific experience.
Some missionary appointees may be on deputation anywhere from 1 -3 years collect support.

There is no central missionary board to direct and manage the missionaries, and pay the salaries, coordinate mission fields, etc...

 

[Dave G]

Many, many more Catholic Churches opening worldwide than closing. the Catholic church has the fastest growing Church in the world. Baptist churches are closing left and right where I live. American Baptist churches that hold 500 or more people have membership of about 15 to 20. mostly gray haired women

It's a sign of the times.
The last of the last days...we're coming down to the wire, now.