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Old Testament Kingdom Prophecies. Literally or spiritually understood?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by 1689Dave, Jun 10, 2020.

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  1. Yeshua1

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    Revelation has an earthly Millennium in view!
     
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    Jesus will one day set upon that throne in Jerusalem!
     
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    Rejecting the Second Coming itself is the issue, not if one holds to AMil or not!
     
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    Even if the correct position is A Mil. NOT to be used to say others not saved who do not agree with that eschatology!
     
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    Messianic Age would have Satan locked away, no more diseases, no more wars, all worship Jesus as Lord, are we there yet?
     
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    You are going off into a Cultic form of eschatology!
    A Mil is fine, just cannot support that its the ONLY viable option!
     
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    He does indeed seem to be stating that!
     
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    So what if your view is wrong, does that mean you are not saved? second Coming must be held, but we can disagree on which eschatology is netter!
     
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    My view is correct according to Jesus' teaching on the kingdom. It's a kingdom of faith, not of sight. Whatever is not of faith is sin.
     
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    Premillennialism is heresy according to the the Council of Ephesus 431.
     
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    You are confusing Phariseeism with the New Heaven and earth.
     
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    A false doctrine on the second coming is worse.
     
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    It's already done in heavenly Jerusalem above.
     
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    Not according to Jesus.
     
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    It is eternal and been here since Jesus first preached it. But the blind cannot see it.
     
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    It's all the same eternal kingdom.
     
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    The Kingdom of God and
    All that Jesus preached in the gospels. And eventually included the developments at Calvary and the following.
     
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    Jesus taught a spiritual kingdom only. And Isreal is believers only. Settle this and most falls into the proper place.
     
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    This is a myth. In general, the church fathers were millennialists, and the Council at Ephesus did not call the premil view heresy. I dare you to give an original quote from 431 to prove your contention. You can't, because such a quote does not exist.
     
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    So, then according to you the Gospel of the Kingdom is different from the Gospel described by Paul in 1 Cor. 15:1-8? That view is usually described as an ultra-dispensationalist view. Can you prove your definition of the Gospel of the Kingdom from Scriptures? Frankly, I completely disagree that it is "all that Jesus preached in the gospels." You have no proof whatsoever for that definition.
     
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