Old Testament Kingdom Prophecies. Literally or spiritually understood?

[1689Dave]

We're still in the times of the ancient Roman Empire.
The two legs were East and West, while the clay signifies a mingling of the two with the peoples of the earth....
America is a good example of that mingling, as is Europe, IMO.

Finally, the ten toes ( ten kings ) have not yet been revealed.
That will happen during the Tribulation, which is 3.5 years long.

I agree.

Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.
A new glorified body can.

Whereas in our first bodies the life is in the blood ( Leviticus 17:11 ), the believer's life is in Christ.

Scripture is your own personal Roarasach test unless you agree with Jesus on the spiritual nature of the Kingdom.

 

[1689Dave]

Strange that you claim that a fellow Christian is in darkness, as in Jesus we walk in the light!

How do you know it is the right Jesus if you reject his Kingdom over the Pharisees?

 

[1689Dave]

Jesus disagrees with you in Acts, as does Peter!

How so?

 

[1689Dave]

Pre and Post Mil views are NOT heresy!

Jesus says his Kingdom is not of this world = both are heresy.

 

[1689Dave]

New heaven Is eternal state, after His Millennium!

There is no millennium. Jesus said the kingdom arrived with him and it's eternal.

 

[1689Dave]

Not per the Bible, do you hold Councils equal to scriptures?

They only define what believers believe for future generations.

 

[1689Dave]

Jesus is right now our High Priest, and He will move to His Hing once sets up his throne here on earth!

His kingdom is not of this world (age). There are 2 ages. This evil age and the new heavens and earth.

 

[Yeshua1]

Jesus is Israel and the restoration of Israel began with his resurrection. And is completed with the resurrection of believers (Israel) on the last day. Paul and Matthew teach Jesus is Israel.

Bible calls Israel that, and calls Church the church!

 

[Yeshua1]

But the spiritual kingdom Jesus taught means all of these kingdom prophecies symbolize it. Do you agree with Jesus or the Pharisees?

I interpret the prophecy passages literally, unless there is a genre reason not to do that!re

 

[Yeshua1]

Scripture is your own personal Roarasach test unless you agree with Jesus on the spiritual nature of the Kingdom.

Kingdom here, but not yet fully here until Second Coming!

 

[1689Dave]

Kingdom here, but not yet fully here until Second Coming!

And it is eternal and spiritual, already begun at the first advent. And follows the resurrection and rapture into the new heavens and earth.

 

[1689Dave]

I interpret the prophecy passages literally, unless there is a genre reason not to do that!re

Paul says the letter kills but the Spirit gives life. God blinded the Pharisees. How different are you from they?

 

[Yeshua1]

And it is eternal and spiritual, already begun at the first advent. And follows the resurrection and rapture into the new heavens and earth.

OT {rophets saw both First and Second Coming, with His messianic Age coming after that event!

 

[1689Dave]

Bible calls Israel that, and calls Church the church!

The congregation of the Lord is the Church in the OT.

 

[Yeshua1]

The congregation of the Lord is the Church in the OT.

That was the called out faithful remnant, but not the Church!

 

[1689Dave]

OT {rophets saw both First and Second Coming, with His messianic Age coming after that event!

“For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.” Matthew 13:17 (KJV 1900)

 

[1689Dave]

That was the called out faithful remnant, but not the Church!

God got rid of the unbelievers you think are his people instead of the believers.

 

[Yeshua1]

“For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.” Matthew 13:17 (KJV 1900)

refers to His First Coming!

 

[1689Dave]

refers to His First Coming!

It refers to Jesus and his teaching.

 

[Yeshua1]

It refers to Jesus and his teaching.

During the first coming!