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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Yeshua1, Jun 13, 2020.

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  1. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
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    we are born as either gentiles or jews, as I do not become Jewish, but stay as a saved gentile!
     
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    he was referring to their national conversion at Second Coming!
     
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    It won't happen. Jesus says his kingdom is not of this world. And that it is spiritual.
     
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    Jews are a religion, nothing more. Just as Christians are.
     
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    Free will is defined as self-righteousness?
     
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    Yes. = you save your self choosing to do so = self-righteousness. Real salvation is God saving those who cannot choose anything good.
     
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    The revival of Israel is a prophecy, not a doctrine. Ezekiel 37. Are you claiming it was already totally fulfilled?
     
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    The Church is Israel. All of the promises are YES in Jesus. Not the wicked Jews.
     
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    Sorry that is not free will. That is not even what I said. I can only assume that if you never chose, then you are saved by Reformed theology alone. You define your own salvation by every single point, and interpretation of some very good humans, who can overthink salvation.
     
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    Ezekiel happened in Esther. Is Russia really going to steal Israel's cattle with spears and horses?
     
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    I think the current state of affairs will prove you wrong. You are saying all humanity is currently saved and changed.
     
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    Choosing salvation = self salvation = self-righteousness. God saves those who cannot do anything to merit salvation.
     
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    Your salvation is a religion?
     
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    Jesus is Israel along with believers in the NT. The wicked unbelieving Jews are not.
     
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    By common definition. How can you be saved if you are not a member of Israel?
     
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    So if you choose to eat a banana, you are a banana?
     
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    Do you become Jesus drinking his blood and eating his flesh?
     
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    If it happened in Esther, why was it still all a mess in the 1st century?
     
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    Have you ever read Esther?
     
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    Why does ethnicity matter?
     
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