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[Yeshua1]

You know better than that. You are either Christian based on the bible, or Jew based on the Talmud.

we are born as either gentiles or jews, as I do not become Jewish, but stay as a saved gentile!

 

[Yeshua1]

After converting from wicked Judaism to Christianity.

he was referring to their national conversion at Second Coming!

 

[1689Dave]

he was referring to their national conversion at Second Coming!

It won't happen. Jesus says his kingdom is not of this world. And that it is spiritual.

 

[1689Dave]

we are born as either gentiles or jews, as I do not become Jewish, but stay as a saved gentile!

Jews are a religion, nothing more. Just as Christians are.

 

[timtofly]

If you claim free will. you also steal God's glory in matters of salvation. You give glory to your self-righteousness instead of him.

Free will is defined as self-righteousness?

 

[1689Dave]

Free will is defined as self-righteousness?

Yes. = you save your self choosing to do so = self-righteousness. Real salvation is God saving those who cannot choose anything good.

 

[timtofly]

It won't happen. Jesus says his kingdom is not of this world. And that it is spiritual.

The revival of Israel is a prophecy, not a doctrine. Ezekiel 37. Are you claiming it was already totally fulfilled?

 

[1689Dave]

The revival of Israel is a prophecy, not a doctrine. Ezekiel 37. Are you claiming it was already totally fulfilled?

The Church is Israel. All of the promises are YES in Jesus. Not the wicked Jews.

 

[timtofly]

Yes. = you save your self choosing to do so = self-righteousness. Real salvation is God saving those who cannot choose anything good.

Sorry that is not free will. That is not even what I said. I can only assume that if you never chose, then you are saved by Reformed theology alone. You define your own salvation by every single point, and interpretation of some very good humans, who can overthink salvation.

 

[1689Dave]

The revival of Israel is a prophecy, not a doctrine. Ezekiel 37. Are you claiming it was already totally fulfilled?

Ezekiel happened in Esther. Is Russia really going to steal Israel's cattle with spears and horses?

 

[timtofly]

The Church is Israel. All of the promises are YES in Jesus. Not the wicked Jews.

I think the current state of affairs will prove you wrong. You are saying all humanity is currently saved and changed.

 

[1689Dave]

Sorry that is not free will. That is not even what I said. I can only assume that if you never chose, then you are saved by Reformed theology alone. You define your own salvation by every single point, and interpretation of some very good humans, who can overthink salvation.

Choosing salvation = self salvation = self-righteousness. God saves those who cannot do anything to merit salvation.

 

[timtofly]

Jews are a religion, nothing more. Just as Christians are.

Your salvation is a religion?

 

[1689Dave]

I think the current state of affairs will prove you wrong. You are saying all humanity is currently saved and changed.

Jesus is Israel along with believers in the NT. The wicked unbelieving Jews are not.

 

[1689Dave]

Your salvation is a religion?

By common definition. How can you be saved if you are not a member of Israel?

 

[timtofly]

Choosing salvation = self salvation = self-righteousness. God saves those who cannot do anything to merit salvation.

So if you choose to eat a banana, you are a banana?

 

[1689Dave]

So if you choose to eat a banana, you are a banana?

Do you become Jesus drinking his blood and eating his flesh?

 

[timtofly]

Ezekiel happened in Esther. Is Russia really going to steal Israel's cattle with spears and horses?

If it happened in Esther, why was it still all a mess in the 1st century?

 

[1689Dave]

Have you ever read Esther?

 

[timtofly]

By common definition. How can you be saved if you are not a member of Israel?

Why does ethnicity matter?