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The Covenant of Redemption

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Iconoclast, Jun 30, 2020.

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  1. Barry Johnson

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    Why are you into the wacky stuff ?
     
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    Is ' persevere to the end ' the Gospel ?
     
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    All 5 are unbiblical . Thats bold to say I know . But they are completely false . Thats quite a thing to say considering the size of Calvernism .
     
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    Your closer to wesley than you realise. Arminans are closer related to Calvernist s than they both realise .
     
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    I'm listening to the calvernists on here . I'm happy to be educated .
     
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    Apparently I need you to elucidate proper theology to me. When will the lesson begin?
     
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    Is 'don't persevere to the end' the Gospel?
    Matthew 24:13. "But he who endures to the end shall be saved." See also Matthew 13:20-21.
     
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    Of course not . So now your saying that we have to endure to the end to be saved today ? is that the Gospel you hold to ?
     
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    When do you think our Lord changed His mind about it?
    Of course we (i.e. Christians) have to persevere / endure in the faith! But the Good Shepherd has laid down His life for the sheep. Now the sheep of the Lord Jesus' flock are a special breed. They are distinguished from others by their ears and their feet. "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me,' So if someone is not following the Lord Jesus, they reason may be that they are not His sheep for whom He laid down His life. It is possible to become a lost sheep for a period, in which case the Good Shepherd will go forth, find him and bring him home (Luke 15:4-5), but if that doesn't happen, then one must conclude that the sheep is not of Christ's flock.

    The sheep were given to Christ by the Father (John 10:29), and He will not lose any of them, but raise them up at the Last Day (John 6:39), so if someone departs from Christ and does not return, it is because he is not one of Christ's sheep (1 John 2:19).

    Note well this verse: "But you do not believe because you are not of My sheep' (John 10:26). He does not say, "You are not of My sheep because you do not believe." Think about it.
     
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    Are you Jewish ? were you there when Jesus spoke face to face? My how you have aged well .
     
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    The sheep were alive when Jesus spoke of these Jewish ones . Are you a lost sheep of the House of Israel ? do you have a time machine? not everything Jesus spoke is about you .
     
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    These kinds of light frivolous responses indicate a person who is not really looking for an answer. If you want to be taken seriously you need to stop trying to post for eyeservice and engage what has been posted.
     
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    #134 Martin Marprelate, Jul 18, 2020
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    The word of God cited, Psalms 19:4, refers to God's natural revelation.
     
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    you have patiently presented saving and edifying posts and scriptures here
    Archangel has went through his posts and showed the defective thoughts but he does not take time to respond.
    I can give him credit for his long post and list of his thoughts recently posted.
    if time permits I will go through them one at a time.
     
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    Barry asks where we read about the saints persevering. I submit we read it here:
    My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.
    ~ John 10:27-28
     
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    I believe this is exactly what you are doing . There is no question or answer in your responses . This is supposed to be a debate / discussion forum. Please engage rather than just statements .
     
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