Featured Is God the author of Evil/Sin?

According to your Calvinist teacher(s), whom I am currently reading about via this enlightening criticism of your doctrines, you all teach that God predestines people to sin. Thus, aka, God makes people sin.

You say God chooses people to be saved, so why would you not say that God chooses which person will sin?

Is that not what you believe?

In which case, doesn't that make God an Evil God who makes Evil happen in the world?

That takes out the responsibility of men for their own action and saying that GOD causes the sin/evil in this world.

So God caused the Holocaust. God caused 9/11. etc. etc.

That is what ya'lls teachers teach. From what I have read.

If you're wondering what book I'm reading it is this one:

Against Calvinism : Rescuing God's Reputation From Radical Reformed Theology
Author: Olson, Roger E.

So, in conclusion, if you believe that, that God makes man sin (as well as make man choose to believe upon His son), you are contradicting scripture that says God is Love, God is good and Holy.

Note, that when I say that you say that God makes people sin, I am not saying that when God punishes people that is evil, no, that is Justice, and God is an all JUST God as well as an ALL GOOD God.

Now let me hear your remarks and your defense of your very own belief and tell me how it makes sense and why you worship a God that (let's say), made that man kill your child or some other atrocious action and that that man did not commit that sin HIMSELF, by HIS OWN WILL, that God only KNEW about, but was able to use for His glory in his mysterious way, but at the same time, not FORCING that man to commit such a sin, but allowing it to happen for all things work for the good of those who Love God.

Please know I am not pointing out these horrid views of Calvinism to condemn or humiliate those who hold onto those views, but to rebuke and correct and give a defense of the hope that I have in Jesus, whom I chose on my free will to follow.

 

Okay, then what does God DO in your eyes Yeshua? Because previously you told me that God chooses who is saved and who is not. So what's stopping you to say God chooses to make men sin or not?

What do you believe? I'd like to know.

 

Definitely not the first choice. God gave Man FREE WILL to sin or to not. God CAN stop it, but he allows it to happen to make men accountable for their actions.

And definitely not the second, because God makes no mistakes. But God, in His sovereign glory, can make all things, bad and good (that men choose to do good or bad), work together for the good of those who choose to love Him and make Him their Lord.

Why don't you just fess up to the fact you believe in a God that makes evil happen?

 

Why are you mocking me when I am indeed not a Calvinist, but who promotes free will choice to all man kind. Why can't you believe that God still makes it all work for the good of those who love Him? Isn't that what the scripture even STATES?

And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose. (Romans 8:28)

That's not a Calvinistic doctrine, yes, some make it out to be, but out of context and out of what the scripture meant for it to mean.

Are you a Calvinist? Why are you attacking me? Why don't you just answer the question in the OP? Do you believe God makes evil happen or that man makes it happen but God allows it, but that doesn't make Him force anyone to do an evil action?

Please answer and stop throwing around mocking and insults like an upset child.

 

LOL! These are what your proclaimed Calvinists teach and believe! I'm going off what THEY have to say about it. What do YOU have to say in their defense or rebuttal, hm?

And I Never said personal holiness/good works/sinless perfection gets you to heaven. DUMB! Grace given by God in the person of Jesus Christ whom we have to accept freely gets you into heaven.

 

LOL I say again, I am taking all this from OTHER professed Calvinist teachers!!! It's not my fault you choose to ignore them, and if you do, I guess great, since you don't believe, but I"m sure there are SOME Calvinists who believe what I just posted which is in fact, factual, by other factual Calvinists who believe what I posted in the OP.

check your facts jack

 

You shouldn't mock period. And the Bible says not to tease either. What does the proverb say?

“Like a madman who throws firebrands, arrows, and death, is the man who deceives his neighbor, and says, 'I was only joking! (Proverbs 26:18-19)

I read who I choose to read, I don't want to waste time reading your false doctrine, all I'm pointing out is that you have CALVINISTS (i don't care what DEGREE they are) that say they believe in the OP i stated. What say you? If you don't agree, great! But where did this Calvinist get this nonsense from and how are you going to rebuke it as I am?

 

and I know Calvinism is a false doctrine, stating that God forces man to choose whether he believes upon His son or not. (which is ridiculous)

Is THAT what you believe? Because if so, it is wrong and I heavily rebuke it.

 

Who said you can be saved without Christ? Christ saves you, but you have to accept Him. Duh

 

Look up the book yourself and read it. I have access to it via my online school. I gave the name and author. But some of those authors you just stated had some quotes in there that stated the OP above. I can't copy/paste but if you can't take a fellow Christian's word for it, then oh well. Believe in ignorance that your precious Calvinism is holy and good and right.

 

I'm not a fool, since I post truthful/factual statements and it's not my fault you don't like to be pointed out to the folly of your doctrine(s).

No, Roger Olsen is not a Calvinist, he is rebuking Calvinism. Why would I read something a Calvinist wrote? I've got the basic gist of your believes and I don't care to read any more out of context scriptures and lies on what my God does or doesn't do.