What Is Reformed Theology?

[atpollard]

From a Jehovah witness bible. It is at best a commentary of the least likely to be true.
MB

The JW use the New World Translation, not the English Standard Version (ESV).

The English Standard Version (ESV) is an English translation of the Bible. It was first published in 2001 by Crossway. The ESV is based on the 1971 edition of the Revised Standard Version (RSV) text.

The ESV adheres to an "essentially literal" translation philosophy, taking into account the differences of grammar, syntax, and idiom between current literary English and the original text. With regard to gender language, the goal of the ESV is "to render literally what is in the original." The ESV uses some gender-neutral language.

During the early 1990s, Crossway president Lane T. Dennis engaged in discussions with various Christian scholars and pastors regarding the need for a new literal translation of the Bible. In 1997, Dennis contacted the National Council of Churches to obtain rights to use the Revised Standard Version (RSV) text as a base for a new translation. Crossway later formed a translation committee and started work on the ESV in the late 1990s. In the translation process, approximately six percent of the 1971 RSV text base being used was changed. Crossway claims that the ESV continues a legacy begun by the Tyndale New Testament of precision and faithfulness in English translation from the original text, followed in the same standard by the King James Version of 1611 (KJV), the English Revised Version of 1885 (RV), the American Standard Version of 1901 (ASV), and the Revised Standard Version of 1952 and 1971.​

 

[MB]

The JW use the New World Translation, not the English Standard Version (ESV).

The ESV is translated from the Alexandrian text. 2 text found in egypt about 100 years ago. The the New world translation of JW's bible is taken from the same text. They are for all intents and purposes the same Bible.
The KJV is translated from over 5000 text. It is called the majority of text. To insure the most accurate translation the KJV was of the Majority of all those text. IOW's what the Majority of each verse said. The ESV is written for the Calvinist.

The English Standard Version (ESV) is an English translation of the Bible. It was first published in 2001 by Crossway. The ESV is based on the 1971 edition of the Revised Standard Version (RSV) text.

The ESV adheres to an "essentially literal" translation philosophy, taking into account the differences of grammar, syntax, and idiom between current literary English and the original text. With regard to gender language, the goal of the ESV is "to render literally what is in the original." The ESV uses some gender-neutral language.

During the early 1990s, Crossway president Lane T. Dennis engaged in discussions with various Christian scholars and pastors regarding the need for a new literal translation of the Bible. In 1997, Dennis contacted the National Council of Churches to obtain rights to use the Revised Standard Version (RSV) text as a base for a new translation. Crossway later formed a translation committee and started work on the ESV in the late 1990s. In the translation process, approximately six percent of the 1971 RSV text base being used was changed. Crossway claims that the ESV continues a legacy begun by the Tyndale New Testament of precision and faithfulness in English translation from the original text, followed in the same standard by the King James Version of 1611 (KJV), the English Revised Version of 1885 (RV), the American Standard Version of 1901 (ASV), and the Revised Standard Version of 1952 and 1971.​

The ASV is the first to be translated from the Alexandrian text. Russel decided to use this version to create the JW's The KJV is the most accurate version of the original text.
Good and evil have always been at war with each other for the mind of man. Satan is not stupid and the first target of any war is always communication, and the Bible is our communication from God Him Self. Think about it.
You know Satan doesn't bother with those he knows he already has, but fights against those he doesn't have, continuously. Few Calvinist use the KJV because it does not agree with there doctrine.
MB

 

[AustinC]

Hmmm... just because you can’t seem to grasp the deep things of God and His word does not mean that those who do are of the devil.

The Archangel


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Barry preaches salvation by merit, the very thing Paul denounced in his letter to the Galatians. Since we preach salvation by grace (not merited), Barry is trying to justify his merit-based teaching and decry those who preach the grace of God. His teaching is anathema to the gospel and those who follow his teaching follow legalism (yes, he holds to an ism) and attempt to make themselves equal with Christ Jesus in their salvation. Those who have ears to hear will reject his teaching. Those who are destined to live this life in bondage will follow his teaching. May Barry enter heaven with the flames of hell licking at his backside as all his works burn up because they were wood, hay and stubble.

 

[The Archangel]

The KJV is the most accurate version of the original text.

That's funny... and shows a near total ignorance of the KJV and the original text.

The Archangel

 

[Iconoclast]

Don't wory I know where I'll be when I die. Your destination all hangs on your false ideas of election.
MB

My eternal residence and destination have been made certain by my Great High Priest, mediator, and surety. The great blessing of election unto salvation is unfolding right on time.
You have given me an idea for a fresh thread,thank you.

 

[The Archangel]

What can we exspect from a Calvinist?

Again... if you dismiss something simply because of the theological position of who said it--and not on the merits of what was said--you're simply demonstrating the depths of your ignorance.

They didn't understand because they were illiterate.

False. The Jewish society was literate for the most part. If you have Deuteronomy 6 requiring people to write things on the door posts (a physical structure as opposed to the heart, a figurative idea) it presupposes a literate society. What is more, the laws of Israel were required to be written. The King himself was required by the Law to write his own copy of that Law. Again, this presupposes a literate society.

What is more the exiles kept up their religion, which they would have read Hebrew for, but the use of Aramaic developed. If Daniel 2-7 is written in Aramaic, which it is, it is presupposed that the Jews could read both Hebrew and Aramaic.

What you mean is there ignorance of God was so incredible they could not understand. But no you"ll sit there and try to tells us that God didn't make it plain enough.

Not ignorance. Explanation is always needed for the word of God... This is why we have preachers delivering sermons, not just reading scripture from the pulpit.

In your dreams. Most people did understand.

And you know this because you were there???

The funny thing here is that you insist on "The text says..." except when it goes against what you want it to say. Nehemiah 8 is quite clear--an explanation was necessarily given--but you want to explain it away in your quest to be right in your wrongness.

You sure you aren't catholic because this is the supposed reason the priest didn't want the people to read the Bible. They needed higher up's to explain it to them. LOL People on this board can read and write.

The situation is different--if you knew your history you'd know that. The catholic priests kept people ignorant so that they could accomplish whatever they wanted that was contrary to scripture. The Levites in Nehemiah 8 were engaged in an exactly opposite endeavor. They wanted the people to conform to the Law and to know God through it. Big difference.

The Archangel

 

[Squire Robertsson]

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[AustinC]

As C.H. Spurgeon once said, Reformed theology is nothing other than biblical Christianity.

 

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