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What Is Reformed Theology?

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by 37818, Sep 19, 2020.

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  1. atpollard

    atpollard Well-Known Member

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    With such a well thought out and clearly articulated argument, how could anyone fail to be persuaded just because you have not bothered to provide even a single verse of scripture to support your empty opinions?

    The only appropriate response is “Is not. You are.” :p
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    Which isn't what you say.
     
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    What you don't get is that I do not interpret scripture. The KJV is already interpreted from the original languages. I just read it. I do not try to tell what scripture is saying I just accept what scripture is saying. It speakes to me I do not speak to it or analize it. This is your problem You look at scripture and say to your self what is it sayng. Don't you think God can dictate scripture so that man can understand it? With out placing it through interpretation. It's your interpretation that is Guiding you. I let scripture Guide me. You have allowed the preachers of Calvinism to convinced you of what they believe and not of what scripture actually says.
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    Reformed theology being the most far off within christianity, puts you at an extreme disadvantage in any bible discussion . Which is why most calvinists debates fail against even the cults . Some examples are Jeff durbin and James White v Mormons ( on you tube )
     
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    IN your dreams. I have proved Calvinism is not scriptural. You just can't accept it.
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    What scripture would you like me to post?
    There is nothing in scripture about Calvinism. The tulip is not in scripture.
    There is no total depravity
    There is no unconditional election
    There is no limited atonement
    There is no irresistible grace.
    There is no perseverance of the saints.
    I've tried to get Calvinist to prove these things exist and not one has ever done that. Oh they show scripture and then ad there interpretation. There interpretation is what they believe. It's not what scripture says

    I have presented Jn 3:16 and they try to tell me that world means the elect. It does not.When a Calvinist presents scripture to prove what they are saying it always fails because when it's read in context we see it does not support what they claim it does. Man is saved when he believes in the gospel Acts 16:31 says so and I believe it. I do not ever see anyone saved with out believing first no where in scripture. Prove me wrong if you can.
    No where in scripture does it ever say God elected any Gentile. Your doctrine is false even though you refuse to see it.
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    What a foolish post, but that is all you can do.
     
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    No one thinks you have proven anything, where are you getting such an idea?
     
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    Well, you are clueless about reformed theology and you show us you struggle with grasping God's word. Keep living with your prejudice and ignorance, Barry.
     
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    Watch the debate and see for yourself.
     
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    The simple fact that none of your doctrines are found in scripture.Calvinism is not provable.It's merely a fairy tale.
    MB
     
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    Starting with "There is no perseverance of the saints." First, what do you think that means?
     
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    This is a cop-out that misses one central point of biblical theology, biblical interpretation, etc. It isn't so much "what it says" that matters, but "what does what it says mean" matters greatly.

    In Nehemiah 8 we have the Levites helping the people to understand the Law that was being read to them. Notice that v. 8 shows that the reading from the book was not sufficient; the leaders explained the text to the people ("gave the sense") so that they would understand what was being read.

    So, it isn't quite as simple as "what the bible actually says."

    What is more, to look at this verse or that verse, or even this passage or that passage, while ignoring the over-arching themes of biblical theology (Creation-Fall-Redemption-Glorification) is to ignore the meaning of the entirety of the Bible. So singling out verses and demanding a verse for this concept or that concept is really a quite superficial way to go about the things of Scripture.

    The Archangel
     
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    It means you have to work to keep your Salvation. Persevere.
    If no one can pluck us out of His hand why worry about it. Eternal Salvation is permanent.
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    Again, you show your ignorance.

    1 Corinthians 3:11-15 For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw— each one’s work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If anyone’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.

    Hopefully you can understand what Paul wrote and how it applies to the life of the child of God.
     
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    What can we exspect from a Calvinist?

    They didn't understand because they were illiterate.
    What you mean is there ignorance of God was so incredible they could not understand. But no you"ll sit there and try to tells us that God didn't make it plain enough.

    In your dreams. Most people did understand.

     
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    I do not agree with the Alexandrian text. It's a Jehovah's Witness Bible.
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    May it's your Calvinist upbringing.
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    Let’s test that Hypothesis:

    [Rom 3:10-12 KJV] 10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. 12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

    How many are righteous?
    How many understand?
    Who seeks after God?
    Who does good?

    What does scripture say without any “interpretation”?
    (Let the backpedaling contradictions begin.)
     
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    So THAT is your proof that the Bible does not say that we are dead in sin like Calvinism claims? That is your proof that Ephesians 2 doesn’t exist?

    No wonder I can’t accept your “evidence” as proof.
     
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