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Jesus Christ Shed His Blood for Judas

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SavedByGrace

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Iconoclast said:
Yes, many not all, read Gen.12-17
The elect are a multitude no man can number.
More than the stars of the heaven, more than the sand of the sea.
If you move quickly to delete your post, maybe no one will see what you suggested
Many does not mean all.
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and according to the like of you, ALL does not mean ALL either! :Laugh
 
SavedByGrace

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Iconoclast said:
All means different things in scripture.
All in Adam does not equal All in Christ.
Nice deflection away from the elect multitude. :Cautious
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so what about the ALL that is used in 1 Timothy 2:1-6, where it is very clear tom those with no theological bias, that every use of ALL here means the entire human race! Yet those like yourself, will reject this because the Scripture here disagrees with your "theology"!
 
Alan Gross

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SavedByGrace said:
so what about the ALL that is used in 1 Timothy 2:1-6, where it is very clear tom those with no theological bias, that every use of ALL here means the entire human race! Yet those like yourself, will reject this because the Scripture here disagrees with your "theology"!
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In I Timothy 2:1-6 the word, "all" expresses, "all kinds of men ( kings, etc.)", in context, in the second, forth, and fifth usages.
 
SavedByGrace

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37818 said:
Well a, false accusation and seemingly choosing to be willingly ingnorant. Check the Strong's Greek dictionalry 3340.
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I don't use Strong's which is for those who hardly know any Greek. Try the Greek lexicons and you might learn a thing or two! Are you arguing against the need for repentance prior to salvation?
 
37818

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SavedByGrace said:
I don't use Strong's which is for those who hardly know any Greek. Try the Greek lexicons and you might learn a thing or two! Are you arguing against the need for repentance prior to salvation?
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Then you know full well the Greek words that I referred to mean a change of view or a change of mind.
 
robycop3

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Jesus said, "Woe to the man by whom I'm betrayed! Better for that man if he'd never been born", showing He knew Judas would die in sin. He said that in Judas' presence. He even told Judas, "Go, do what you must do quickly." Thus, Jesus made it known to Judas that He knew Judas would be His betrayer, giving Judas the chance to repent of his evil intent before he did it. Thus, no one can say Jesus was unfair to Judas. Judas was made aware that a terrible eternity awaited him if he betrayed Jesus, and Jesus knew who would betray Him. But Judas went through with his act anyway.

Now, just HOW did Judas betray Him ? He showed the temple police sent to arrest Him who Jesus was, by his kiss. He had told them beforehand that Jesus would be He whom Judas would greet with a kiss. Otherwise, the police woulda passed Jesus by, as He looked quite-ordinary, & they'd never seen Him before.
 
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SavedByGrace said:
so what about the ALL that is used in 1 Timothy 2:1-6, where it is very clear tom those with no theological bias, that every use of ALL here means the entire human race! Yet those like yourself, will reject this because the Scripture here disagrees with your "theology"!
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Yes the gospel goes to all men not just those of Israel not just Jewish people not just common people ,those in Authority, all men. but not all men are going to be saved
 
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