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Featured Biblical Repentance and the gospel of John

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by 37818, Dec 6, 2020.

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  1. Yeshua1

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    Keep going in my quote, as he affirmed that those who would receive Jesus by faith first were appointed by God to do that!
     
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    Here the Calvinist denies Romans 4 yet again. Putting our faith in Christ is not works!!!!

    Rom 4:4-5
    Now to the one who works, his wage is not credited as a favor, but as what is due. But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness,
     
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    faith itself is a gift from God, so of course not a work!
     
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    this is NOT what the verb, in its context here means! I suggest that you personally look at the passive and middle voice in the Greek for yourself, and you will see that context in most cases determines the exact meaning of the verb. In our present case, the rejection of the one, and the acceptance of the other groups, shows that here it is the middle and not passive. Let the Bible and not theology guide your understanding!
     
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    if you are here referring to Ephesians 2:8-9, then you are wrong, as it is salvation and not faith here that is considered the "gift"! Although ultimately , even the faith that is produced by the hearing of the Gospel (Romans 10:17), cannot be from oneself, but needs be by the working in the sinners heart by the Holy Spirit. The sinner then can either accept or reject this.
     
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    Falsehood claimed over and over, and refuted again and again. One Calvinist claims faith is works, and another claims it is not a work. Why is it they can get nothing right? :)

    And note Romans 4:5 says to the one who believes, not to the one who was given faith. :)
     
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    False. I believe what the Bible teaches.
    We were dead in our trespasses and sins.
    God chose to make us alive.
    We are saved by grace, through faith.
    If we confess our sins God is faithful and just to forgive us our sins.
     
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    ah, this is REPENTING, and according to you, a WORK!!! make up your minds! :Roflmao
     
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    Can someone tell me how sorry I need to be for my sins to be saved? Really sorry or just a little? Is their a degree of sorrow I need to reach to be regenerated?

    What about repenting of my sins? How many sins? All? How is that possible? I thought repentance was changing our mind about Jesus.
     
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    1 John was written to Christians. He was encouraging them to good works. For fellowship, not salvation.
     
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    wrong! 1 John 2:2 is most definitely about the salvation of the entire human race, "He is the propitiation for our sins (Christians), and not for ours only (Christians) but also for the sins of the whole world (non-Christians)". Amen!
     
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    yeah, read your Bible, like Jesus' Words "and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem" (Luke 24:47), and Peter, "Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." (Acts 2:37-38), and "Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out" (3:19). If you cannot grasp this great Truth in plain English, I could give it to you again in Greek or Latin! :Laugh
     
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    also, "For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death" (2 Corinthians 7:10)

    And, Luke 18:13, "But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’"
     
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    Again you didn’t answer the question. I understand you say we need to repent. I want to know of how many sins and how sorry we need to be for God to accept my repentance
     
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    1 John was written to Christians. He was encouraging them to good works. For fellowship, not salvation.

    Yes, salvation, as it says
     
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    "For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death" (2 Corinthians 7:10)
     
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    ALL your sins, and with truly "godly sorrow", as the Bible says. God knows our hearts. Anyway I am off to bed as I am from good old England. Good night! :Sleep
     
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    Are you a politician? Because this verse does not answer the question
     
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    Anyone who says they have repented of all their sins and is sorry for all their sins is a liar sir. That is impossible and the Lord doesn’t grade on a curve. So it’s sinless perfection that is needed and no amount of repentance or sorrow can be achieved by a human.
     
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