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Featured Charles Hodge On Repentance

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by SavedByGrace, Dec 10, 2020.

  1. AustinC

    AustinC Well-Known Member

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    It seems you laugh out of an incapacity to see your legalism and lack of grace.
     
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    Utter falsehood posted over and over. We must repent and believe before God credits our faith as righteousness and places us into Christ. Thus repentance comes before receiving forgiveness in Christ.

    Acts of the Apostles 3:19
    “Therefore repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord;
     
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    Before we able to do anything, God must first grant us new hearts and minds to do what is then needed!
     
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    It's always a sign of legalism when the words "we must" is the requirement for salvation to happen.
    It's as if God is hamstrung by the reaction of humans.

    All believers are called to repent and return whenever we go astray. A godless person cannot return to that which they have never been. Would they repent and return to sin since it is sin that they have always known? Therefore, it is important to know that repentance is an action of those whom God redeems, not of those who have not yet been redeemed. The one who truly believes will repent. Not only that, but the redeemed will continue to confess sins in repentance and continue to receive forgiveness. This is the process of sanctification, which God completes in his children.
     
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    Behold the Calvinist attack on truth.

    Here again is the Calvinist claim: We must be Justified before we can even know what our sins plural all are!
    And here again is the biblical truth:
    Acts of the Apostles 3:19
    “Therefore repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord;

    Calvinist claims we are justified, then repent, whereas scripture affirms we repent and then are justified.

    Folks, just add this verse to the list of verses Calvinism nullifies.
     
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    And here we see Van fall back on his crutch.
    Anytime you cannot argue, you just type "Calvinist" as though you have justified your position. Such a silly ploy by you.
     
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    Note once again a personal disparagement, but no support from scripture for the fiction of Calvinism's claims such as justification before repentance. This is all they have...
     
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    these modern day "reformed" have their own theology that is not what the Bible teaches!
     
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    These modern day judaizers teach legalism, which the Apostle Paul called anathema.

    They cannot accept that God makes a person alive and then that person repents. Instead, they demand their own control rather than God having the authority. They desire to take away God's honor and glory while giving it to themselves.
     
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    show just ONE Scripture that says this!
     
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    Ephesians 2:1-9
    And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience— among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved— and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

    There you go.
    Accept what God tells us and know that a person whom God makes alive will repent of their sins.

    1 John 1:7-10
    But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin. If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
     
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    I can read that what Paul is here saying, is to those who are already believers! There is not even a hint in this to say that God first makes a sinner "alive", and then they are "able" to call on Him for salvation! This is more reformed theological nonsense, and NOT what the Bible Teaches! There you go!
     
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    Zoom in on this...
    But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive

    Do you actually understand what God is saying here?
    God makes people alive with Christ...even while they were dead in trespasses (sins).

    God does the work.

    No mention of "must repent first."

    You are inserting a work of men in order for God to act. God never inserts what you insist upon.
     
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    You are refusing to accept the teachings of Jesus and others in the Bible
     
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    I accept what God tells us regarding His work of redemption. I reject your legalism because it does not express what God expresses.
     
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    I am saying, based on the following scripture, while I as a child of God I still sin, I am no longer in "bondage" to habitual sinning.

    [Rom 6:1-2 KJV] 1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

    [Rom 6:18 KJV] 18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

    If a person claims to be born-again, is living in habitual sin is not chastened by the Holy Spirit, that person has serious cause to examine their relationship with God.

    [Heb 12:7-8 KJV] 7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? 8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
     
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