Missions and MEV, BBE, EE Translations

Does anyone know if the MEV is actually being used in a translation project for one of the countries that still does not have a Bible, yet?

BBE has been translated into other languages by missionaries, and I am almost sure that the Easy English Bible was originally meant to be a tool for missionaries that did not know Greek and Hebrew to translate into languages without a Bible.

FAQ's - MEV | Modern English Version

What is the target audience of the MEV?
The Modern English Version is a translator’s Bible for missions work and to provide the Word of God to all English-speaking people throughout the world.

What role does the MEV have in missions?
The work of translating Scripture has always been an important part of Christian missions. Due to the work of missionary Bible translators, the complete Bible is available in over four hundred languages today. Missionaries normally have not used ancient Greek, Hebrew, or Aramaic texts in translation work. Instead, they usually have relied on the King James Version. In like manner, the Modern English Version is useful to continue translation work on the mission field.

Bible in Basic English - Wikipedia.

The Bible In Basic English (also known as BBE) is a translation of the Bible into Basic English. The BBE was translated by Professor S. H. Hooke using the standard 850 Basic English words. 100 words that were helpful to understand poetry were added along with 50 "Bible" words for a total of 1,000 words. This version is effective in communicating the Bible to those with limited education or where English is a second language.

Easy English Bible with free Commentaries and Studies

 

As long as academics insist on publishing their work behind pay walls, online discussions meant to include all income levels will remain reliant on Wikipedia. Do you have links to information on the BBE that are not available in the wiki, but are accessible to everyone that might want to participate in this topic?

I only know enough about these topics to show how stupid that I am. As long as access to education, secular and Christian, remains restricted, I will continue to be stupid, display my ignorance in public places, and link to whatever I do have available to me. I am not ashamed to be poor or to display the ugly scars inflicted by poverty. Poverty is a form of violence. I am a wounded veteran. A veteran that uses Wikipedia as a crutch when it is all I have.

Ogden's work with Basic English fascinates me.
Ogden's Basic English
Some of it is available to everyone and some of it is not. I didn't want to jump too quickly into Ogden and the BBE until we had a chance to talk about the MEV and the general topic of translations from English.

La Biblia en Español Sencillo is the BBE translated into Spanish?
La Biblia en Español Sencillo
La Biblia en Español Sencillo formato MP3 - Free Bible in Simple Spanish Audio Bible

There really was no real need for a Spanish version of the BBE, as there are better Spanish translations? A bilingual BBE and BES Bible might be useful, though?

The BBE is useful to translate into a language with conjugated verbs, if the missionary is not fluent in Hebrew and Greek and has not mastered the conjugated verbs of the target language, and the target language is without a Bible?

If the target language does not have conjugated verbs, the newer EE would be a better base than the BBE?

I am almost certain that the original purpose of the EE was for translation work and that they have changed their focus as the world has changed. Yes, more people around the world are learning English as a result of the internet, but there is also a growing educational trend of setting the bar higher and leaving more people behind. We still have people groups without a bible in their own language, and a Bible translated from the BBE or EE is better than no Bible.

The NIrV is copyrighted and keeps changing, but that Bible is easy to translate into another language. I used to use it in tutoring remedial Phonics and ESL, but gave up on it.

 

I am really struggling with applying secular discriminations of sources to Bible discussions. Secular education is meant to divide the classes, even when they profess otherwise. When Christendom adopts secular practices as a default, especially those that exclude the lower classes, I cannot always adopt those practices as my defaults.

I will slap up wiki links to start the conversation, hoping that someone here with more education can link us to something better that we all can read together. Until my big brothers open access to us littler kids, we will make mud pies with the mud. Please link to better stuff, if you have the links!

If experts do not dumb down the Bible, then dumb people will decide how best to translate from English into the target language that they have not mastered. It is more efficient and more accurate for "experts" to turn a sentence into a simple sentence that starts with a clear subject that is followed by an active verb than for the individual missionaries to do that.

When I was in college, I did a lot of translating the professors' English into more simple English for my friends. We spoke over 90 languages on our campus. I stopped trying to learn the languages of my friends, and focused on learning to speak the easiest English possible. And learned their individual weaknesses, and made sure to accommodate them. For example, one guy confused Tuesday and Thursday, so I did memorize those two words in his language.

Sometimes dumbing down the Bible is the only option to get some kind of Bible into the hands of some smaller people groups.

Does the MEV publish any scholary articles beyond the little bit they posted on their website? Do they ever make a case for themselves of why the MEV is better than other options?

 

When that option is possible. I have been involved in translation projects that were sloppy, but all that was possible. People translated from the original language into bad English and then I did my best to clean up the English. Who knows what was lost.

 

The NIrV was updated when the NIV was updated.

 

The NIrV is easiest.

 

BBE is based on Ogden's simplied verb system.
Verbs in Basic English.

 

I agree. Pronouns are replaced with verbs. Sentences are restructured to subject active verb sentences. Compound sentences are translated into multiple simple sentences and the connections between the clauses is sometimes lost.

 

My professors used to think their English was perfectly easy enough to understand until they would watch me simplify it, and see students from multiple countries all say, "Oh, okay, now I understand." I learned some of my tricks by reading the NIrV.