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What apostate Church? Apostate makes the assumption THEY HAD IT RIGHT BEFORE. So who had it right and when?

To state who and when only puts another nail in the coffin, because early church fathers are Catholic, the immediate generation bishops with apostles still alive still teach Catholic teaching.

Every time a new denomination or heresy pops up there is clash with historic evidence from both sides.

We see the Gnostics, Marcionism, Montanism, Adoptionists, Docetism........ Never hear any Eastern orthodox or anyone say "hold on who are these Catholics?"

 

"Come out of Babylon" is symbolic of the believer living in exile on this planet. The Kingdom of God has not yet descended from heaven with Jesus, our King, ruling in Supremacy.
We are called to stop viewing ourselves as citizens of a godless, human, kingdom in which we once lived. As Christians, our Kingdom is not of this world. We are called to live as citizens of the Kingdom of God, not of the kingdoms of men. "Let goods and kindred go..."
Hebrews 12:22-24
But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, and to the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.

 

To cultists, it means coming out of various churches and joining their cult.

 

There are tremendous resonances here that stretch back across the whole Bible.

Notice the correspondence of Revelation 18:5 to the first mention of Babylon (Babel) in Genesis 11:4. The expressed desire of Babylon is to "reach the heavens" and to "make a name". In Revelation 18, something in Babel has reached "the heaven" -- Sins. One gets the distinct idea that this is what God was talking about in Genesis 11 when He said, "nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them". That which humanity planned to do was that which would result in the litany of depravity described in Revelation 18. Whatever the "good intentions" of the people at Babel, as it seemed right to them, the ends thereof were the ways of death (Proverbs 14:12). God's action in Genesis delayed the goal of Babel until the time of the end when that goal would ripen, much as the iniquity of the Amorites had ripened over the 400 years from Abraham to Joshua (Genesis 15:16).

The chronicle of the Bible seems to show that since Babel in Genesis, the ruler of the kingdoms of this world has sought to undo what God did in the plain of Shinar. The prophetic dreams of Daniel depicted a series of empires, rising and falling. They are all "beasts" and each one offers its own "one speech", a unifying linqua franca. This also resonates with Jesus when he was tempted in the desert 40 days and nights where he was among the "beasts" and was tempted by Satan with the offer to rule his "babylons", his notional, ersatz "millenial kingdom" or "thousand year reich" as Hitler dreamed.

It is a saga from beginning (Genesis) to end (Revelation).

 

At least that's where it was at that time of Peter's writing. That was the beast with the iron teeth which arose after the Greek hegemony (the previous beast from Daniel's vision). Each of these beasts are attempts to gather the whole world together as it was at Babel with new attempts rising after the failure and fall of previous attempts. Who or what is Babel today? How close is the ruler of this world to achieving his goal of bringing the whole world back together as it was at the beginning in Shinar?

Remember also that the woman of the vision is not Babylon but rather the one who rides atop it. It is out of "her" that God's people are called. There are many clues for us to think about from this image.

 

Good post. Good reply. We can see that it is hard to decipher biblical enigmas.

Well, Fundamentalists, or whoever be, they make a big mistake in stating that the seven heads linked to the Great Whore are the seven hills located in the Vatican City - Rome. Will be?

The seven heads - i.e. seven mountains and seven kings - are also linked to the man Beast of the Sea(cf. Rev.13:v.1-10), and to the Red Dragon (cf. Revelation 12:v.3-4), that is the ancient serpent, called the Devil and Satan, which deceives the whole world.

The Great Whore sitteth upon many waters- Revelation 17:v.1:

- Knowing that the waters where the Whore is seated are peoples, NATIONS, multitudes and languages(cf, Revelation 17:v.15), how could all these things be seated upon the 7 hills of Rome where the Vatican City is built? It never could be. In fact there is no physical space for this in whole Italy. So, to tell the 7 heads are the 7 hills of Rome it is not true, it is a false interpretation;

- The 7 heads are a monstruous religious structure spread across planet Earth as a whole, but only and only the headquarters of this gigantic religious structure is located on the 7 hills of Rome really, that is the Vatican City.

We have to discern that the Whore was not "born" with the 7 heads, we have to understand that the seven heads were formed over time, over centuries, that is, as time went on, this religious structure grew , increasing its power, it increased its body, in fact it took more than a millennium and a half to form the seven heads. Religious and political factors shared this monstruous development of the Whore, and now, in the current time of Apocalypse, we can say the Whore is fully seated on 7 heads.

Question to clarify:

Waters are peoples, multitudes, NATIONS and LANGUAGES, many LANGUAGES: where are they located? In the seven hills of Rome? Of course not.

They are located evidently in Europe, and Asia, and Africa, and Oceania (Australia), and North America, and South America, and Central America, the seven continents or seven regions of the Earth where the Whore is seated. These are reality the seven heads where the Great Whore is seated, and not the seven hills of Rome-Vatican City, however, the seven hills of Rome are within Europe, one of the seven heads of the Whore.

And who are the seven kings in these MONSTRUOUS religious structures spread in whole Earth? It a hard enigma to be deciphered, and the focus is the monstruous and ancient religious system of the Great Whore - the Papacy - whose system elected around 266 Popes around 2,000 years of existence. Scriptures reveals the existence of a lineage of seven Popes among these 266 elected, and that specific lineage is the only lineage within of which will fit in to the seventh to be elected, and this will be the last Pope in this current time, i.e. a lineage of Popes Paul. The last Pope to be elected must be nicknamed and be called of Paul VII. This last Pope will rule the 1,260 days or the first half of the week - Daniel 9:v.27- the last week.

Pope Francis MUST die soon and then will be elected the LAST Pope.

THE LAST DECADE - COUNTDOWN

01 12, 2021 is the ELEVENTH DAY of the LAST DECADE of the world of Devil.

The LAST WEEK - Daniel 9;v.27 - is within of this LAST DECADE.

Be careful and get ready

 

You could start by not writing in ROMAN characters.

 

I don't know. The woman riding the beast is wearing red, white and blue.

Look at the state of our protestant churches today. It's like when God grabbed Ezekiel by the hair and showed him the hideous blasphemies and defilement going on in the Temple.

I turned on the radio on Sunday to listen to a 30 minute program called "The Lutheran Hour". Right after that was a show about all things CBD by a company called "American Shaman". I suppose it's little worse than what I grew up hearing in these time slots, Kathryn Kuhlman, Reverend Ike, Herbert W. Armstrong.

 

Ahhhh, yes - everytime I come back here, I get an eyeful of @Hobies ignorant nonsense.
Time for a Bible, History and Geography lesson.

The "Whore of Babylon" is an entity that prostituted itself to Babylon (Pagan Rome).
We know that "Babyklon" was 1st century code for "Rome", partially from Peter's 1st Letter (1 Pet. 5:13).

FIRST thing, Einstein - the Vatican is not built on ANY of the 7 hills of Rome:
1-Aventine Hill
2-Caelian Hill
3-Capitoline Hill
4-Esquiline Hill
5-Palatine Hill,
6-Quirinal Hill
7-Viminal Hill

There is only ONE City that fits the descripotion of the Whore - and that is apostate Jerusalem.
Jerusalem is ALSO built on 7 Hills:
1-Mount Scopus
2-Mount Olivet
3-Mount of Corruption
4-Mount Ophel
5-The original Mount Zion
6-The New Mount Zion
7-The hill on which the Antonia Fortress was built

She is called "The Great City" (Rev. 17:18)
- Jerusalem is called the "Great City" - “where also their Lord was crucified” (Rev. 11:8).

She is "Drunk on the blood of God's Holy people" (Rev 17:6)
- Not ONLY did Jerusalem kill the prophets (Matt. 23:37, Luke 13:34) - she persecuted the Early Church (Gal. 4:9, 2 Cor 11:23-26).

"Jerusalem is the "Faithful City"
- Isaiah 1:21 laments, "How the FAITHFUL CITY HAS BECOME A WHORE, she who was full of justice! Righteousness lodged in her, but now murderers."

According to wikipedia - there are NINETY-FOUR (94) cities around the world that are built on "7 Hills".
Among these are:
San Francisco, CA
Albany, NY
Cincinnati, OH
Tehran, Iran
Moscow, Russia
Mecca, Saudi Arabia - and the list goes on . . .

YOUR explanation that Rome is the "Whore" doesn't fit because Pagan Rome can't be prostituted to itself.
Do your HOMEWORK . . .

 

Gee, @Hobie - I was hoping for SOME sort of an attempt at a response.

Funny how you're constantly on the attack - until somebody gives you a solid Biblical and Geographical argument you can't handle . . .

 

Uhhhh, no.

What I DID do was obliterate your "Catholic Church/Whore of Babylon" nonsense by giving you a solid Biblical and geographical argument as to why it is probably apostate Jerusalem. Vatican hill is NOT one of the Seven Hills of Rome.

I was simply wondering when you were going to try to attempt to counter that argument with equally-solid evidence . . .