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Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by rlvaughn, Dec 21, 2020.

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  1. rlvaughn

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    Thanks for the explanation. They were addressed to my quote, so I assumed they were addressed to me.
     
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    Thayer, like Dr George Winer, of the 3 NT Greek grammars, allowed his theology to influence his word definitions in his lexicon, many being quite subtle, and almost convincing to the untrained mind!
     
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    And you are giving false witness about and slandering a Christian. It was wrongly reported in the book "kingdom of the cults" 50 years after Thayer was buried. Since he was not King James Only onlyist jumped on the false statement repeating the slander. The false information was added to an edition published by "green" of Thayers lexicon. But clearly he clearly did not belong to a Universalist church, or they would claim him. Why don't they claim him? Because they can't. He did not belong to their Church nor hold their views. As told to you by Christians, he was a Congregationalist. He did not belong to a Universalist Church, nor hold their views. Find something from his time period stating that he was a Universalist. You can't because it's not true. You, through bad witness, are slandering a fellow Christian by giving false witness about him. Passing on false witness by kingjamesonlies mickey mouse websites. Keep on repeating false things do not make it true
     
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    Have you got a copy for Thayers Greek Lexicon
     
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    We have the infallible and trustworthy word of God to us still now!
     
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    This is where textual criticism comes into play, and great news is that ANY Translation based off of Hebrew.Greek and translated rightly would be infallible
     
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    There is no derived authority of inspiration, as that would be same view as the KJVO!
     
    #107 Yeshua1, Dec 28, 2020
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    Translations cannot be Inerrant, nor inspired, but are Infallible!
     
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    God make sure to preserve to us through the multitude of the manuscripts and other data His written word, but there is no derived authority of inspiration passing from the originals to the copies during the translation process!
     
    #109 Yeshua1, Dec 28, 2020
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    Inspiration refers to just the originals, as those books had the Holy Spirit making sure were written down without any errors or mistakes!
     
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    So any translation based off of any Hebrew or Greek is infallible even if the Hebrew or Greek from which they are translated differ?
     
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    Inspiration meant that the Spirit made sure that there were no mistakes or errors in the originals , but there are no translations in any language that can claim to be inerrant!
     
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    So you are saying that we have no inspired Bible in any language as we do not have the originals. This is an interesting, albeit problematic, stance as you can have no confidence of ever having read God's Word.
     
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    Yes, as there will be no doctrines affected regardless of which textual basis used to translate off from!
     
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    My point is that we do not have any of the originals. So by your standard we cannot have an inerrant Bible or an inspired Bible in ANY language. We just have a good guess. I don't think that's enough to base belief upon.
     
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    That does not matter. All of the text used could be wrong....maybe even just a myth....as you believe none of them to be inspired by God.
     
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    The only ones that can claim what you want for ther bible would be Muslims and their Koran!
     
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    We have infallible b ible, again, NO doctrines or practice is affected, do you think any version is perfect then?
     
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    Verbal Plenary Inspiration!
     
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    This is not true. I am claiming that Scripture is "God breathed" in such a way as we have God's infallible and inspired Word in our Bibles today (my claim is that inspiration goes beyond the words used and that God preserves His word in Scripture).

    The problem with your view is that you say some non-existent writings were inspired by God but nothing that exists today is God's Word.
     
    #120 JonC, Dec 28, 2020
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