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Is that what I said?

 

Per John 7:39 the Holy Spirit is relative to glorification of Jesus which required obedient death of Jesus and resurrection by the Father.. John 17:3 1 Peter 1:21 Rom 8:11

 

I hate the closing of threads. Sleep tight.

 

Yes, then you said I said it doesn't mean the human race. So did you mistype or are you purposefully misleading about what I did or did not write?

 

I will look tomorrow for I will be going to church shortly.

 

Can any of you reading not see the sameness of Acts 2:32,33 Titus 3:5,6 and even Rev 1:5 and 6 for HS if you take under consideration of anointing as kings and priests.

 

These are the arguments of the one person who is arguing a view that no one else believes.
Is there really any use talking to such a person who speaks like this?
Such responses are enough to know the OP has lost the argument.

 

I am saying that is an oversimplification of the issue and doesn't take into account actual nuance of usage.

 

I know what he claims and have no reason to believe that he has lied to me about his journey in the faith.

I would extend the same assumption to any claim you made about your journey in the faith.

 

What is the larger context?

Who is the writer speaking to and what is the broader topic that he is talking about? (YOU TELL ME.)

[This is an example of what I meant when I said that TRUTH was not found by exchanging single verses torn from their surrounding context.]

 

Could you link to where R.C. Sproul says that? I have a strong suspicion that it is misunderstanding something being taken out of context because RC Sproul was not against repentance.

 

Exactly. If anything, RC harped on people not repenting enough!

 

NETBible: Ephesians 1:3-14

Ephesians 1:3-14 is One Sentence in Greek: Where to Start

In Christ: In One Sentence;
It’s well known that Ephesians 1:3-14 is one long sentence in Greek. The following is from the ESV but I’ve made some of the pronouns more explicit to highlight the way in which Paul sees the Christian life—from before the foundation of the world to eternity—as bound up with the idea of union with Christ.


Grace is a Gift | Ephesians 1:3-14

Punctuating the Bible - The Aquila Report

Ephesians 1 | Bible.org
Ephesians 1:3-4 Commentary | Precept Austin
Ray Stedman writes that "There is an unusual structure in this passage to which I'd like to call your attention. From Verse 3 through Verse 14 in the Greek text (not in the English) you have one complete, unbroken sentence filled with many adjectival phrases brought in to amplify and enrich it. If you want to get the effect of it, take a deep breath and try to read it through with one breath. You will see how much Paul has crammed into this great sentence. It's almost as though he is taking a walk through a treasure chamber, like those of the Pharaohs of Egypt, describing what he sees. He starts out with the most immediate and evident fact and tells us what that is. Then something else comes into view and he puts that in. And glory flashes upon glory here until he has this tremendously complicated sentence which includes vast and almost indescribable riches...You see, these are much more than mere doctrinal ambiguities, mere theological ideas. They are facts, foundational truths which undergird us in every moment of our life. And, unless you understand those facts, you can't utilize them, you can't benefit from them. In that way they are like natural laws. The laws of nature operate regardless of how we feel -- they are impersonal in that respect. I've been doing a bit of electrical work in an addition to my home, and I've discovered that electricity follows a pattern of its own and takes no notice of how I feel at the moment. That can be a shocking experience! It is not in the slightest degree impressed with my position as a pastor of Peninsula Bible Church. It doesn't hesitate to retaliate for any violation of its laws that I commit. It is up to me to discover how it works, and then to respect it, if I want to utilize it. The same thing is true of these great facts. They will do you not a particle of good if you don't discover what they are and believe them enough to operate on the basis of them. That is why we are having this study together. We couldn't possibly cover in one message all that is wrapped up in these great truths, and I don't want to attempt it. We want to take our time going through this passage so that we might grasp these fundamental facts. (Ephesians 1::3-14: Foundations)

Notice that in a single verse Paul uses the entire word family -- the adjective (eulogetos), the verb (eulogeo) and the noun (eulogia) and the sentence still makes supernatural sense not nonsense as the natural man foolishly surmises!

Blessed (2128) (eulogetos from eu = good + logos = word - English "eulogy" = a speech or writing that praises someone highly) is the adjective describing the One Who is worthy of praise and in the NT is rightly used only of God and Christ Jesus. Rarely eulogetos is actually used as a Name for God -- "the Blessed One" (Mark 14:61).

Eulogetos - 8x in 8v - Mk 14:61; Luke 1:68; Ro 1:25; 9:5; 2 Cor 1:3; 11:31; Eph 1:3; 1 Pet 1:3