Featured John 3:16-18

That wasn't the question though.

 

I must agree there. Our brother @SavedByGrace should read how the KJV uses should : it's often in the sense of would.

This is the king’s English:

1Co 11:31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should [would] not be judged.

1Th 3:4 For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should [would] suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know.

2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should [would] believe a lie:

 

Look at Genesis 28.10-15

 

None of which is relevant to the OP and the point he was making.
Just saying.

(PS: Placed like you describe it, it sounds as if God might need to change, which is an impossibility and contra-scriptural. I think you may have proven that God did not hate me before I was saved.)

 

It was relevant to the point you were seeking to make.

Also, it can't be "contra-scriptural" if it's said in the "scriptures", as was shown. And there are a dozen more to show.

If God didn't hate you before, when you were an enemy of God, under his wrath, walking according to Satan, etc ...that's contra-scriptural.

 

He has to because he does not want an answer, but just oppose truth

 

To claim God changes, or changes his mind may, indeed be contra-scriptural:

• [1Sa 15:29 NASB] 29 "Also the Glory of Israel will not lie or change His mind; for He is not a man that He should change His mind."
• [Psa 55:19 NASB] 19 God will hear and answer them-- Even the one who sits enthroned from of old-- Selah. With whom there is no change, And who do not fear God.
• [Psa 110:4 NASB] 4 The LORD has sworn and will not change His mind, "You are a priest forever According to the order of Melchizedek."
• [Jer 4:28 NASB] 28 "For this the earth shall mourn And the heavens above be dark, Because I have spoken, I have purposed, And I will not change My mind, nor will I turn from it."
• [Mal 3:6 NASB] 6 "For I, the LORD, do not change; therefore you, O sons of Jacob, are not consumed.
• [Heb 7:21 NASB] 21 (for they indeed became priests without an oath, but He with an oath through the One who said to Him, "THE LORD HAS SWORN AND WILL NOT CHANGE HIS MIND, 'YOU ARE A PRIEST FOREVER'");

 

You have every right to throw down a gauntlet, but you might want to reread his post and throw down the correct gauntlet ... he is accusing you of not understanding Reformed Theology. He has not attacked your Greek in the quoted post.

 

Quick question just based on what seems to me to be "in your face" obvious about John 3:16 ...

Why is it impossible for God to:

• "love the world" (be that men from every nation and all men and all of creation; each in a different way) and send His son ...
  • men from every nation: Revelation 5:9
  • all men: Ezekiel 18:32
  • all of creation: Genesis 1:31
• so that "whoever believes" (which is not everyone because not everyone believes) will not perish.
  • John 3:18

John 3:16 always seemed like an important verse about the intentions of God (something we get few glimpses into) and a terrible proof text for the Calvinism/Arminianism debate.

 

I know that is not the exact question you asked. I gave you a nuanced answer purposefully.

 

You do realize that I've already quoted a verse where God stops loving people and begins hating them, right?

 

moving on.

 

I don't think I understand the thrust of the question. Can you please make it plainer?

 

Are you telling me to take a Sharpie to the verses that I posted, because God does change and God does change his mind?

 

Are you telling me to do the same?

My point is you can't ignore the verses you want and keep the ones you want.
All must be reconciled.

 

It is in relation to it if your read up. But it is fruitless, so I'll stop and make some space. God bless you.