Featured Does Your Bible Version Prove Tongues Are Not For Private Use?

You are not reading him right, but I can be wrong too.

But from what I read.. he meant that not everyone that hears the gospel preached to them believed in Him to be saved. So the same would be true in hearing the gospel in a foreign language from the disciples in Acts 2.

Since it is on God to cause the increase & thus the saving by enabling sinners to the gospel preached unto them...., it does not matter if preached in everyday language or a foreign language by God's gift of tongues, it is on God to cause the increase.

He concluded by that last statement that below that gibberish nonsense which is what private tongues are... is not really a language to hear the gospel at all in the first place when it is gibberish nonsense

atpollard said......

"Actually, not quite true ...

[I mean, ultimately, God does all of the saving, so it is true in the sense that preaching the Gospel never got a lost sinner saved, either.]

... it played a significant part in getting my attention to hear God’s word and reconsider my previous rejection of the “invisible unicorn”.

[of course, babbling isn’t really “tongues”, is it.]"

 

You can judge with Jesus as your Good Shepherd from the scripture the difference between God's real gift of tongues which is a foreign language of men to speak unto the people ( 1 Corinthians 14:20-21 ) & what is of the world as found in the world as their supernatural tongue which is gibberish nonsense ( Isaiah 8:19 )

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John 7:7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil. ~ KJV

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 22 Abstain from all appearance of evil. 23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24 Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.

No way would God mimic the pagan's supernatural tongue as found in the world when that would make it hard for believers to abstain from all appearances of evil. How can sinners know they had departed from those spirits & those tongues unless God would never mimic that gibberish nonsense? How can the church know sinners have repented from their former practices unless God's gift of tongues is of other men's lips to speak unto the people & can never be gibberish nonsense?

 

By his post #24.. I am seeing that he may not be aware of how tongues assumed for private use is not of Him at all.

 

It has been referenced in some old English dictionary at the times of the KJV translators that unicorn was understood to be a rhinoceros.

And invisible as applied in scripture is referring to God not presently seen. This was applied to our futire king, the Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Timothy 1: 16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting. 17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen. ~ KJV

So discern that with Jesus in how God is invisible in referring to the Father when the Son is the invisible image of the Father thus alluding the Father is not presently seen because He is in Heaven. but we will see Him in Heaven when we are there.

Colossians 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: 15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: ~ KJV

As it is, Jesus testified He had seen the father before coming down here.

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. KJV

John 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

 

Such claims that cannot be confirmed by me; I have not seen it but.....

I point to the warning from Jesus as He addressed all those who profess miracles & wonderful works...Matthew 7:21-23 whereby many have fallen in Matthew 7:24-27 like slain in the spirit. So regardless of the good works, if there be iniquity...

Remember the church at Thyatira? They had works in it but God had something against them too which runs the risk of being excommunicated as in cast into the bed of the coming great tribulation and they too, spoke the depths of how Satan speak.

Revelation 2:18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; 19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first. 20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. 21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. 23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. 24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden. 25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

This was prophesied to happen. 1 Timothy 4:1-2 confirms & so does 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 & 2 Thessalonians 2:7 & 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 Paul reproved that iniquity by reminding all when they had received the sanctification of the spirit & the belief of the truth at the calling of the gospel in 2 Thessalonians 2:13-15

Just because believers get devil tongues by another fountain, doesn't mean they are not saved. They had been saved but departed from faith to seek after spirits to receive by signs, even healings as the Ernest Angeley's healing crusade had done when they pray for the Holy Spirit to come & fall on already saved believers to receive healings.

That was not the Holy Spirit coming on saved believers & some testify in spite of the healing, something else was traded with it. I can attest to not being healed of my deaf left ear & the tinnitus in my right ear & yet something happened to me that was weird the next day when coming home after high school, I had to take a nap. When I awoke, I could not move. There was an electrical buzzing hum all around me & so I prayed to Jesus for help before I could even move slightly & then a little more & then a little more until he weight rolled off of me. It did not take but years later in 1994 or 1997, when I was confronted with the holy laughter movement in my aunt's church when the Lord kept me from falling in that movement & kept me from serving that in His name but serve the Lord Jesus Christ in seeking His glory by the calling of the gospel & no other calling.

So I am certain you did not discern with Him the NBLC when you ignore the signs that are obviously not of Him.

Look at how miraculous healings can occur in pagan religions.

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So when a healing exalts the movement of the spirit by which promotes receiving another spirit not of Him, it is iniquity.

There is no receiving the Holy Spirit again apart from salvation. That is the only way believers can test the spirits by knowing He is in us ( 1 John 4:1 & 1 John 4:4 ) as oppose to how the world receives spirits by feeling them; John 14:17

1 John 4:1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.... 4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. KJV

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. KJV

That is the difference between how the world receives the spirits & how we receive Him by faith in Jesus Christ at our salvation moment & at no other time.

 

Apparently, you do not get it yet.

In 1 Corinthians 12:4-14 & 1 Corinthians 12:19-21 is proof that tongues are not for private use for that would run against scripture as saying, because of all those supposed benefits for tongues for private use, those tongue speakers have no need for the body of Christ..

And the most important line of discernment is that there is no other baptism of the Holy Ghost separate from salvation to receive "again" in order to get tongues or any gift of the Spirit per 1 Corinthians 12:13 when there is only one drink of the One Spirit.

So while you seem to be ignoring the warning from Paul in 2 Corinthians 11:3-4 about those who would cause others to go astray by giving another calling as if they can receive Jesus Christ again or the Holy Spirit again, you should know that the apostle John warned believers not to believe every spirit but test them. 1 John 4:1

1 John 4:2 is the same thing a saying 2 Corinthians 13:5. It is not about reproving the heresy as if Jesus had never come in the flesh but where Christ is presently as in our bodies. This is confirming the rightly dividing the word of truth when 1 John 4:3-4 puts the spirit of the antichrist outside of us as felt in the world or the worship place. That means that is not the Holy Spirit being felt in the worship place around saved believers when He dwells in us so that is the spirit of the antichrist they are feeling outside of them. And because He is in us since salvation, then any spirit being felt as coming in us again is not the Holy Spirit.

So in spite of healings, casting out demons, & whatever wonderful works you say has happened, when they are falling down out of loss of self control, even when they were seeking tongues by another baptism of the Holy Ghost in seeing some believers falling down in seeking thereof, that is NOT the Holy Spirit coming on them again.

Did you note that in order to defend this supernatural phenomenon, you glorified the NBLC? You lifted up that church, not the Lord Jesus Christ. You gave credit to the NBLC and not the Lord Jesus Christ for the healing of your wife. It's like.. look at what we have at our church that you do not have. Requoting you from that other post #33.

How come you are not pointing believers to go to Jesus Christ at that throne of grace for this healing? It is because you are not pointing others to Him to get these miracles, but to a place where supposedly the Spirit of Christ is at rather than in us.

Matthew 24:.23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before. 26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. KJV

2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates? KJV