Why God the Father Is Not Invisible

[Yeshua1]

International Standard Version Acts 7:55-56 But Stephen, filled with the Holy Spirit, looked straight into heaven and saw the glory of God and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. He said, “Look! I see the heavens opened and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God!”

None can see God the Father until we get to heaven though!

 

[Yeshua1]

He's invisible to human eyes.

duh.

When we're glorified, we shall see Him as He is, for we shall be like Him.

But you want to say that we can see Him as He is now, with our eyes of flesh. Go to the Mormons. You're a better fit for them than you are for Baptists.

He seems to be sounding more akin to how Mormonism sees God!

 

[Yeshua1]

Since Jesus has seen the Father in Heaven before His incarnation then when we get to Heaven, we shall see the Father & Jesus.

The father is immaterial Spirit!

 

[Yeshua1]

Not sure who you are replying to, @Yeshua1 or me , but the only time we shall see the Father & the Son is in Heaven in our perfect resurrected state. I was not referring to seeing the Father down here in our current state. The Father remains in Heaven when Christ returns as the King of kings. In the end after the great White Throne Judgment, Christ gives the kingdom back to the Father when death has been cast into lake of fire forever to bring everything under subjection to Him as the Christ before giving the Kingdom to the Father.

1 Corinthians 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. ~ KJV

The Father and the Spirit have no bodily form, as both are Spirit!

 

[SavedByGrace]

None can see God the Father until we get to heaven though!

in heaven I think that we will see the Great Triune God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Though I could well be wrong, as I know not of any Bible verse to say that we will see The Three Persons.

 

[Yeshua1]

in heaven I think that we will see the Great Triune God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Though I could well be wrong, as I know not of any Bible verse to say that we will see The Three Persons.

I do not know of any either! maybe Jesus will be the eternally visible Image of the Invisible God to us?

 

[SavedByGrace]

I do not know of any either! maybe Jesus will be the eternally visible Image of the Invisible God to us?

What about this?

"And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and His servants shall serve Him: And they shall see His face; and His name shall be in their foreheads." (Rev 22:3-4)

"the Throne" of God and the Lamb, in the Greek is singular, as are "Him" and "His". Not the One Person, as the Greek is "ου θεου και του αρνιου". But, their Reign is joint, which removes any notion of any "subordination" of Jesus to the Father, post Incarnation. In Rev 14:1, we read, "And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's Name written in their foreheads.".

And, Job 19:26, "And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God", "See", is "châzâh", which is, "to behold with the eyes"!

Numbers 12:8, "With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?" "temûnâh", for "appearance, likeness, form"

 

[SavedByGrace]

And, Isaiah 6:1, 5, "In the year that King Uzziah died I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and the train of His robe filled the temple...for my eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts!”

 

[SavedByGrace]

John 6:46, "not that anyone has seen the Father except He who is from God; He has seen the Father."

"εωρακεν", does not mean that no one will ever see the Father, but, that no one has seen Him...

Exodus 24:9-11, "Then Moses and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel went up, and they saw the God of Israel. There was under his feet as it were a pavement of sapphire stone, like the very heaven for clearness. And he did not lay his hand on the chief men of the people of Israel; they beheld God, and ate and drank."

 

[Yeshua1]

And, Isaiah 6:1, 5, "In the year that King Uzziah died I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and the train of His robe filled the temple...for my eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts!”

I think that was the preincarnate Jesus!

 

[Yeshua1]

John 6:46, "not that anyone has seen the Father except He who is from God; He has seen the Father."

"εωρακεν", does not mean that no one will ever see the Father, but, that no one has seen Him...

Exodus 24:9-11, "Then Moses and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel went up, and they saw the God of Israel. There was under his feet as it were a pavement of sapphire stone, like the very heaven for clearness. And he did not lay his hand on the chief men of the people of Israel; they beheld God, and ate and drank."

Were they seeing Jesus there, or were they seeing more of His glory, and not Himself?

 

[SavedByGrace]

Were they seeing Jesus there, or were they seeing more of His glory, and not Himself?

Job 19:26?