Question after question, evasion after evasion, the "T" of the Tulip is bogus because many seek the narrow gate that leads to life.
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Do Calvinists Affirm Free Will then?
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Reformed1689
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More change the subject and avoid the truth posts from Calvinists who say Jesus did not say many seek the narrow gate.
Reformed1689
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Can you image calling Jesus's words a strawman?
It is amazing how absurdity is used to defend false biblical doctrine.
Calvinism - nobody ever at any time seeks God
Jesus many seek the narrow gate.
Reformed1689
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I would be rich if I had a dime for every time an ignorant Calvinist claimed an opponent did not know something. It is a ploy of the false teachers to hide from truth, the T says no one ever seeks God and Jesus says many seek the narrow gate that leads to life.
On and on, feigning ignorance to hide denial. Jesus said many seek the narrow gate which leads to life, and the Calvinists claim with a straight face they were not seeking God. I kid you not.
On and on, subject change after subject change. The "T" of the Tulip has been shown to be bogus doctrine because many have the spiritual ability to seek the narrow gate that leads to life. This is obvious and for these Calvinist posters to deny obvious truth shows the result of false doctrine.
Again, Matthew 23:13 has people seeking God. Luke 13:23-24 has people seeking God. Yet this Calvinist denies scripture to push false doctrine.
Reformed1689
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Reformed1689
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In that passage, where do we find "and some found God"? Please quote this for us.
It's clear you cannot.
Why were people not able to enter the gate? What does the text say?
Let the text speak for itself.
And someone said to him, “Lord, will those who are saved be few?” And he said to them, “Strive to enter through the narrow door. For many, I tell you, will seek to enter and will not be able. When once the master of the house has risen and shut the door, and you begin to stand outside and to knock at the door, saying, ‘Lord, open to us,’ then he will answer you, ‘I do not know where you come from.’ Then you will begin to say, ‘We ate and drank in your presence, and you taught in our streets.’ But he will say, ‘I tell you, I do not know where you come from. Depart from me, all you workers of evil!’ In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God but you yourselves cast out. And people will come from east and west, and from north and south, and recline at table in the kingdom of God. And behold, some are last who will be first, and some are first who will be last.”
~ Luke 13:23-30
What does the text say? I will sit back and let the text speak.
Romans 3:10-18
As it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.” “Their throat is an open grave; they use their tongues to deceive.” “The venom of asps is under their lips.” “Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness.” “Their feet are swift to shed blood; in their paths are ruin and misery, and the way of peace they have not known.” “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”
Yes, it's clear that Van will not address the text and his passage in Luke 13 doesn't say what he is claiming. I even share the text and show him it doesn't say what he claims, but he just falls on the mantra "Calvinists" as though he's made a death blow argument. Sigh
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