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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by SavedByGrace, Mar 23, 2021.

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  1. 1689Dave

    1689Dave Well-Known Member

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    So abortion clinics send more people (babies) to heaven than the gospel? Babies, who if they grow up, will likely go to hell?
     
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    We have to "co assist" God to save us I guess is their view!
     
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    Actually, we premils see that Satan will be able to get most of those under the reign of the Lord Jesus to follow him still at end of days!
     
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    There were never to grow up!
     
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    So we are not damned on Adam's account? And killing babies is good since they are "sinless", even though the wages of their sin is death? And abortion clinics send more to heaven than the gospel?
     
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    This is unfair.
    We are all corrupt, under the curse of sin.
    We all must be saved by grace.
    We can only look at David's response to the death of his infant son and realize that he, by faith, believes he will see his son again.
    Thus we can hope that God has graciously elected to redeem the unborn, the infants and those born with no capacity to express faith in Christ Jesus.
    God has not left us without hope.
     
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    God is unfair? The wages of sin are death. Adam's sin imputed to his corrupt race? That's why babies who never consciously sin die. But since hell is commensurate with the amount and degree of sin one commits, they no doubt have less to answer for. So what about abortion if aborted babies go to heaven?
     
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    That's because you haven't done the math. Think about 40 generations or so living as Catholics--as far as family is concerned. That's an innumerable multitude living as Christians for a 1000 years undeceived, molested or tempted by the devil. Satan only gets those living at the end of the 1000 years.
     
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    God destroys Antichrist when he returns ushering in the new heavens and earth, so the Antichrist is here (the Papacy) until the end.
     
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    Yes, there's lots of versions of the Premillennial fallacy.
     
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    He's in error here, too, and it doesn't agree with the Bible. It just agrees with you.

    If an infant is saved, it is by grace through faith. Otherwise it's another gospel, and is anathema.
     
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    Just saying that those aborted babies will be graced by the Father to be with Him now!
     
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    ALL deserve Hell, but God also has provided the means by which he can still be Holy and yet also forgive and pardon infants such as those!
     
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    Yeah, we get what you're saying. Do you confess that that grace must come through faith?
     
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    The Antichrist will not be a Pope!
     
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    Not in their case!
     
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    Where's your scripture proof? This illustrates how it works.

    “Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;” Exodus 20:5 (KJV 1900)
     
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    The first written history suggests Arnulf, the archbishop of Reims in the 10th century identified the Papacy as the Antichrist. Later Joachim of Fiore in the 12th century preached the Papacy was the Antichrist. And the archbishop Eberhard II in 1240 also related the papacy to the Antichrist. This led to the martyrdom of many Albigenses, Anabaptists, and others who in part embraced his views. Synopsis of the End Times; A look at the popular beliefs of today by Mike Morrill.
     
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    Key there is the ones who hate God, do infants hate God?
     
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    Then it's another gospel!
     
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