Help with Romans 11:20-21

Correct, the grafting in or cutting off has to do with a covenant, not with a confession.

 

Only a few were born again. See Hebrews 11. The rest were wicked beyond belief. They forfeited the land promises before they ever reached Canaan. They worshipped Molech and other false gods thinking it was YHWH. When God finished their role ministering to the true believers he abolished circumcision. Thereby turning them into gentiles where they remain today. The Church at that time consisted of the saved believers and the unbelieving. Now it is believers only.

 

“Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.” Acts 3:21–23 (KJV 1900)

 

Lets look at the issue in more modern English:

But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree, do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant, remember that it is not you who supports the root, but the root supports you.

The passage does not say those being addressed were in fact grafted in. The passage presents a conditional statement, if you were grafted in, do not be arrogant, but if you are arrogant, remember you are reliant upon actually being grafted in.

 

National for he Jew yes, but individual for the Gentile.
This I believe is your answer.
Rom 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
In other words don't think of your self as being better than the Jew. The Jew can still be placed back in the root. They being broken off does not mean they are lost with out hope.
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You are free to deny obvious truth and instead charge me with rewriting the text. But I quoted from the NASB95, Sir.

 

I already explained this in my first post.

 

One stands by faith. One's faith must be according to the will of God (Matthew 7:21). Romans 11:20 and context addresses the individual. Now if faith precedes sanctification then eternal security does not exist, Hebrews 10:29. According to John 17:17, 1 Peter 1:2 and 2 Thessalonians 2:13 I understand sanctification to precede the faith and salvation which the faith precedes.

 

Yes He does . We have to remember that God is warning us to not be high minded or proud, and boast as if we are better than they because they were broken off so that we could be grafted in. Salvation is eternal life. Jesus gives us eternal life and He says we will never die. No where does the passage state we would be lost once saved. How ever you know as well as I, many boast about being grafted in even claiming they have been given the Jews inheritance. they believe they have become God's elect. God only has one elect, the Jews.
Be assured George; Once we are saved we are always saved if not we are all wasting our time. Ask your self what He means by the words "Take heed" Being grafted into the root does not make us Jews. We are still a wild Olive branch. We are only fed by the root The Jew is a natural branch. They belong to God naturally.
When we become high minded we have pride thinking we are some how better than the Jew. With out the root we are not fed, yet this does not mean we are lost. If theJjew can be placed back into the root so can the Gentiles. There are lots of Christians who are not fed. Simply they are not going to church to be fed. Are they lost because they are not being fed?This is the same as I see it.
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Nor does it say saved Gentiles
I would ask what is it really that feeds us. What is the root. As I see it what feeds me through a pastor or missionary is God's Holy Word. The Bible is the root of Judaism as well as Christianity. It feeds the lost as well as the saved. The lost can't be saved with out believing so they are fed the gospel. In other words the root has been given to the whole world. I'll live by the Gospel because I have been drawn in to it. It is far better than any other food and much more satisfying. Think about it maybe you are over looking the root right before your eyes.

The parable of the sower shows us all that we all need to believe the Word of God. Simply because it is the root. One was lost because he had not root. He wilted and died.
This is why we as Gentiles have been grafted in.
Rom 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

We should never forget that the Jew suffers loss because they are the natural branches and were broken off . They're election saved them Romans 11:11 Gentiles are saved because they first trusted in Christ. In the end all Jews will be saved. Most refuse to be fed most avoid Isiah 53 proof they have been broken off.They reject His Word.
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I'm not sure but wasn't it Peter who said to examine your selves? To be sure you are really saved. I examine my self often. especially when doubt works it's way in.
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