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  1. John of Japan

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    Opinion and hearsay. For all I know, your Twitter group is fake. Why should I believe it? (And I refuse to go there anyway.) A Twitter post proves absolutely nothing except that there are many gullible denizens of the site.

    You are not answering my posts. Why should I answer yours?
     
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    Opinion. No facts.
     
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    Brothers in the Lord believe alike. Jesus is the truth.
     
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    God banished unbelievers from Israel. Only believers, biblical Israel the Church, remained.
     
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    So? What is your point?

    Care to prove to me your Twitter thingy is not fake?
     
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    False teaching raises the possibility of war on behalf of those who hate God most. Those who exist solely because of their hatred and rejection of Christ. The article on Evangelicals documents it. Do you know anyone in your circles not having the same blood lust?
     
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    Well they should.
    1 Corinthians 1:10, "Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment."
     
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    What article on Evangelicals? If you are talking about the link you previously posted, I already dealt with that, and you wrote nothing about my rebuttal. It proved absolutely nothing. It gave no source for its "millions" statement.

    I suggest kindly that you need to be more careful with the sources you believe. Look for proof, not opinion.

    Yes, many. No one in the ministry I'm a part of has "blood lust." I have no "bloodlust."
     
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    But we have two completely different views of Christianity. Only one can be true.
     
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    I've seen it for many years now. And they think the State of Isreal is biblical Israel and crave shedding blood to defend them....Christ's worst enemies. These people are rabidly bent on war and violence.
     
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    An essential? Or a secondary matter?

    Across the Christian professions there are a lot of secondary beliefs that cannot be true. Of course does not justify being wrong.
     
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    Just saying. I was taught the pre-trib view. But from my study I came to a post-trib pre-wrath view before I ever heard about the pre-wrath rapture. All the churches I have attended teach and are pre-trib. It is fine by me.
     
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    The Post-Trib, Pre-Wrath Rapture: Abridged by Roland Rasmussen

    BTW Roland Rasmussen was my Pastor in 1962 when l was lead to Christ as my Savior at that church. I was a member there from 1970 through 1978. Rasmussen only taught the pre-trib rapture view during that time I was a member there. (I already held my current view, only discussed the matter very briefly in the singles adult Sunday school with the class teacher.)
     
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    No offense, but post-trib and pre-wrath are two different positions and can't really be conflated.

    Added in: Okay, I just read the free pages on Amazon of Rasmussen's book, and apparently he has, somehow, put both positions into one in his book. It seems very weird to me, though.
     
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    No offense taken. I came to my view some time after 1967. It was a discovery as to what I was believing from Scripture. Read The Rapture Question by Wolvoord, a 1969 printing of the book. And discoverd that I should be post trib. Wolvoord gives 50 arguments for the pre-trib rapture.

    I had later gotten Things to Come by Pentecost. A book Pastor Rasmussen referred to and recommended on the pre-trib rapture. Not to me personally, but from the pulpit.
     
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    We have tares and wheat. Tares are not true believers.
     
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    Where have I done that? Please be specific.

    Trust the Bible yourself, not TikTok.
     
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