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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by SavedByGrace, Jun 22, 2021.

  1. SavedByGrace

    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    Reformed/Calvinsitc RUBBISH!
     
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    big problem from what I read you are saying, that it looks like a "works salvation", which is simply cannot be. I do not understand what Acts chapter 10 is trying to say, as there "seems" to be a paradox here with what is clear in the Bible, that sinners are NOT saved by ANY "good works", nor can they "merit" any "favour" with the Lord, towards their salvation. That said, it does say that Cornelius' "good works" were "acceptable" (verse 35), to the Lord. Interesting that the Greek adjective, δεκτός, is also used in Philippians 4:18, "I have received full payment, and more. I am well supplied, having received from Epaphroditus the gifts you sent, a fragrant offering, a sacrifice acceptable and pleasing to God", which is the same sense as Acts 10:35
     
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    And there's the prejudice which blinds the eye to God's word...
     
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    Whatever it "looks like" matters not. Doesn't Romans 2 "look like" salvation by works? Should Paul then not have written it?

    Besides, whenever scriptures contradict a received doctrine, the doctrine must bow to the scriptures. The Bible is clear that good works cannot merit salvation but that God does notice them and on their account presents a man with the gospel of the grace of God that he might be justified without works.
    We can't push true doctrines to non-Biblical extremes either. So just because the NT says that salvation is without works, that doesn't mean that the offer of grace cannot therefore be at least presented to someone because of their good works.

    You don't have to agree with me, but I do applaud your honest effort at dealing with the text without being satisfied in solving the issue by avoiding it. That's integrity and honesty. Kudos.
     
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    The OP did not answer the question of what you believe.

    You will find the “memorial offering” in Leviticus, more evidence Cornelius and his household were worshipping God as God-fearing Gentile converts adhering to Jewish law.

    Any commendation of God being pleased with such “works” must be seen in this context specifically and evaluated with scripture as a whole.

    You have stated you don’t understand Acts10, yet you dismiss out of hand explanations based on context and other scripture.

    Therefore, it seems unlikely you are actually looking for clarity, but rather you think you have found a verse of scripture that undermines Reformed theology and you want to be the perpetual antagonist.

    I’ll leave you to it.

    Thanks for the conversation

    peace to you
     
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    Because what I have seen on here still doesn't answer what Acts 10 teaches
     
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    It was answered according to context and other scripture. You stated you don’t understand what it teaches, yet you dismiss the logical, biblical and contextual explanations offered.

    You cannot accept the answer in context, so your mind remains closed and your understanding limited because your irrational hatred of reformed theology.

    peace to you
     
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    Cornelius was not working for Salvation. He could not have because he lacked the kowledge of how and what to believe to be saved. We have no idea what his prayer was asking. Calvinist say they are regenerated with out hearing the gospel even before faith.Calvinist claim God does not hear the prayers of the sinner. That man cannot come to God on his own. He is totally depraved. and unable. Yet Cornelius Prayed to God and God heard his prayers. I'd say this dispeoves Calvinism altogether.
    MB
     
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    What you have answered and others have not dealt with what this chapter actually says. Your silly comment about hatred of reformed theology is a joke, much like the theology itself
     
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    I’ll leave you to your role as the perpetual adversary of reformed theology.

    Thanks for the conversation

    peace to you
     
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    Because I am a lover of Biblical Truth
     
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    BINGO!!! WINNER!!!
     
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    I'm sorry but no. And I disagree with @SavedByGrace on a host of issues. But that's not a just assessment.
     
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    Wonderful, so am I.

    The difference is, I understand Acts 10 in the context it was written and you can only profess ignorance as to what it means.

    Keep trying, though, maybe you will understand one day, God willing.

    peace to you
     
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    :Roflmao:Roflmao:Roflmao
     
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    Your own warped version of truth! :Laugh
     
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    No need to be sorry. Thanks for the comment.

    peace to you
     
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    No you're not, you can't be. A major theme of the Bible is God's sovereignty and you revile it.
     
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    Calvinism is not in God's word.
    MB.
     
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    Showing you ignorance of what I believe
     
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