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Featured Are Confessions of Faith biblical? Should Churches use them?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Mikey, Jun 30, 2021.

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Confessions/Statements of Faith are useful to use.

Poll closed Jul 21, 2021.

  1. Agree - Everyone uses one even if they say so or not

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  2. False - No creed but the bible!

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  1. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
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    Wonder just how MB sees us being affected by the Fall of Adam then?
     
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  2. Mikey

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    Reverting to personal attacks because I proved that you're talking nonsense. You hold to a statement of faith but you cannot comprehend that you do.

    To say "I believe the whole bible" does not negate the use of confessions. When you actually articulate specifics about what you believe then you are confessing doctrines.
     
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  3. MB

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    Christ said I and my Father are one. You sound more and More like a JW
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    Romans chapter 8
     
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    All died in Adam, all are spiritual and physical dead in Him!
     
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    JW hold that Jesus is Jehovah then?
     
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    The earliest creed in the Church was right around time of Christ, as Paul quoted it in Philippians!
     
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  8. MB

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    I believe in Jesus Christ and God's word. For some reason you don't seem to comprehend that. Is Gods word far to much for you to grasp. You haven't proven squat though you make the false claim you have. I do not hold to confessions ,or statements of faith. Nor do I use them to explain what I believe in .They have nothing to do with doctrine . What you want is for me to explain what I believe. Yet you cannot accept the fact of entire scripture. Are there parts of scripture that you don't believe in?
    I do not take scripture partially. I understand as a whole because each part of scripture is supported by other scriptures. I see it as a book that explains it self. It does not need an explanation of man. It is capable of telling the world of how to be saved.
    When men wrongfully divide it up in to separate categories they add there nonsense to it. as does Calvinism.
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    I can only assume that anything you say is true because you cannot show proof of what you believe in. Typical Calvinism. I do not believe in men
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    It took about 10 years of meetings of hundreds of theologians, including days off for prayer and fasting to pen the Westminster Confession. Even then the Baptists found slight room for improvement. How much sense does it make to overlook the creeds in favor of ignoring them?
     
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    I believe in one God who eternally exists in three persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

    I believe in the virgin birth of Jesus Christ and that he is both fully God and fully man.



    Do you affirm the above confessional statements? If you do then you have declared a statement of doctrinal beliefs.
     
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    Is the Westminster Confession inspired by God? Praying and fasting does not prove it to be God inspired nor, does it prove what they believe to be true. IMHO the only thing it does is ward off those who do not believe the same. Of course it does endorse the belief of those who do.
    Not that it's statement is scriptural.
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    I know you post that you hate it,but when we ask why you cannot accurately explain the teaching. so your objections are quickly dismissed.
    Your one line quips have not helped.
     
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    Of course I believe those particular things yet this would be a rarity if this were the entire statement. This confession is incomplete. Does this convince me of Christ or give me faith in Him. No it doesn't.
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    Bluster with no substance.
    Prove your doctrine.
    I read and understand God's word daily.
    Your turn. Prove your doctrine.
     
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    LOL, you have lost it with this post. You have bluster with no substance.
     
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    LOL, more bluster with no substance.
     
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    No matter what explanation I would give you would still tell me I don't understand. The tulip is beyond Biblical explanation because there is no scripture that backs it up. It is pure philosophy.. Even you a hyper Calvinist can't explain it with scripture. Yet you wish me to. How does someone explain what does not exist in scripture. There own thoughts is all they have.
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    Aren't you a smart one? then you prove it with scripture. If you can.
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    Poor Austin a guy who thinks he is a biblical scholar and this above is all he can write.
    MB
     
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