Dishonorable Discharge

The fact that vaccines are effective against covid does not make me sleep at night.

I know, like most of our vaccines, that I can still catch the virus. I also know that I have a greater chance of being asymptomatic, of having mild symptoms, and of not being hospitalized than had I not been vaccinated. I also know that should I be hospitalized chances are far greater that I will not have to be on a ventilator than had I not been vaccinated. And I know I have a far less chance of death than the unvaccinated.

But that does not make me sleep at night. I do not even think about the virus or vaccine except when I log onto this board or another dies of covid.

 

You should. We are to love our enemies.

Think of it this way - if Christ had no love for wicked people then He would have never died for us. But it was while we're still sinners, wicked people, enemies of God, that Christ died for us.

 

I already posted the source. The data is based on reported serious side effects related to the covid vaccines (combined).

I know others would see a vacvinated guy killed in a motorcycle accident and cry "vaccinated death!" But I am not counting those numbers as I do not know if they are even in a database.

 

Based on reported hospitalizations among the vaccinated vs unvaccinated. A good "trial" on the ground example is @Revmitchell 's thread about Duke University

I know you do not believe the data or the science, and that is fine. But I do. So our numbers will differ.

You make your decision based on your sources as I have based on mine.


For the record....I also believe the earth is round and we landed on the moon.

 

No I'm not.

There is absolutely nothing you can even stretch in this post to be out of line.

There is a thread about Duke University that Rev posted. It said 360ish (I don't recall the exact numbers) vaccinated people had covid (they test everyone weekly and the unvaccinated twice a week). But most were asymptomatic and a few had mild cold-like symptoms. None were hospitalized. That is an on the ground example.

And each of us have to decide which sources we find credible. I find the CDC, FDA, and AMA credible sources. You do not. That is fine. As far as I know you believe sources that affirm your opinions (I do not know your sources and frankly they are none of my business).

This crosses no line.

 

No. Those are political talking points (as is the "they don't know" talking point).

But this is from data provided by on the ground doctors to the CDC. It has been evaluated by the FDA as well. Now...there is of course the chance it is incorrect. But those are the sources I use.

 

You do when it comes to the vaccine. The scientists explained how the vaccine was able to be produced and evaluated quickly. You reject that.

I'm not saying you deny all science....just the science you don't like. I think we would both agree, for example, that mRNA has been proven effective for over a decade. I suspect we both would agree that apples fall towards the earth and not away (they fall down....not up....relatively speaking).