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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Aaron, Nov 20, 2021.

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  1. Aaron

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    Love . . . rejoices in the truth. 1 Cor. 13.

    Is it respect to refer to someone with his 'prefered' pronouns, if they are contrary to the truth?

    Would Jesus have referred to Bruce Jenner as Kaitlyn?

    Was Pilate guiltless in the murder of Jesus?

    So, is it love, is it kindness, is it Christian to refer to a 'transgender girl', which is really a guy, with feminine pronouns?
     
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    did God Create Adam and Eve as MALE and FEMALE?

    Like homosexuality, "trans" is from the pit of hell!

    I will call a real girl or boy, as they are born, by she or he. there is no other!

    Love has nothing to do with it. Christians are directed by the Word of God, and not by the fleeting trends of this evil and wicked world that we live in.
     
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    Maybe I'm just getting old, but these days it is sometimes hard to tell. :(
     
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    What if one's preferred pronoun is a title or role? If the state says two men are married, are they? Can a man be the husband of another man?
     
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    yeah, IT is one of them! :Laugh
     
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    I hit the post button too soon.
     
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    Jesus likely would have told the demon "Come out of him!", after which Caitlyn would be found sitting, clothed normally in male garb, and in his right mind. (Same with the current Jeopardy champion and Biden's cabinet secretary of HHS or something).
     
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    They are married. Marriage/wedding is nothing more than a public announcement of dedication to each other. Are divorced people who again marry really married? Yes, but it is an adulterous marriage.
     
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    What would you do in NY City?
    "The Commission can impose civil penalties up to $125,000 for violation"

    Gender Identity/Gender Expression - CCHR
     
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    "Gender. "“Gender” includes actual or perceived sex, gender identity, and gender expression including a person’s actual or perceived gender-related self-image, appearance, behavior, expression, or other gender-related characteristic, regardless of the sex assigned to that person at birth"

    Complete CODSWALLOP!

    I would IGNORE anything that is against the Holy Bible, and take what comes, as the early Church had to! The Lord is our Protector, and THE Righteous Judge!
     
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    Would that be after or before you pay the 125 grand.

    and if you did ignore - then you end up in jail

    So - in reality - what would you do???
     
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    if it is jail, then jail it is!

    Either we as Christians follow what the Bible teaches, and fully trust in the Lord, or surrender to the ways of this wicked world! we cannot do both
     
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    When clothed, it's always been that way, which was one reason for having differences in clothing.

    But biologically, it's generally been rather easy—just Google "chromosome." :Wink
     
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    I just learned today, a girl who lived behind us and had a troubled childhood has declared herself to be a man.

    Won't she get a monthly reminder ... she's NOT?

    I'm not seeking to be superfluous nor sensational nor sellacious ... but really ...

    this is a mental disease. Facilitating the lie clearly demonstrates the lack of love. Now there are a few ways to respectfully and lovingly share the truth and a LOT of disrespectful ways ... but if the truth is sacrificed, there is no love.
     
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    Which statement is true? Marriage is a public announcement of dedication [between any two or more people of any gender]? or Marriage is the union of a man and woman in a sworn covenant ratified by an oath and becoming one flesh?
     
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    It is purely a legal contract today. It was purely an announcement of dedication to one another back in the day. But we have sodomite marriages today, adulterous marriages, and what have you. Jesus turned water into wine at a wedding/marriage.
     
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    But keep in mind - that before you go to jail - the State would confiscated your home and other real property - sell them - to satisfy the judgement.
    Which Statement is true - The hear revolves around the Sun - or the Sun provides heat to the Earth.
    Guess what - both statement are true!

    What I cant figure is why you but the gender statement in parentheses?
     
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    While truth is not disrespect, sometimes professing Christians express truth in unkind or unloving ways (think Westboro Church...they refer to these people as "Sodomites"). The truth is all immorality is wrong - to include disobedience to God's commands about how we are to treat other people.

    If we cannot express the truth in a loving way then we may as well not express that truth because we ourselves are being disobedient.

    Courtesy is given. Respect is earned. :Wink
     
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    Because that's the understood scope of the statement, not the statement itself.
     
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    The truth of the matter is that marriage is impossible between same sex individuals, period. Legislatures and others calling it a marriage does not make it a marriage.
     
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